[Archers] Known World stuff - follow up

[Jay Nardone]

Just would like to add some clarity to the discussion if I may. No where
along the discussion was it ever mentioned that we not continue to either
organize and run or support the SSB. My original post was stating that I
felt it was time for the East or Mid to step up and run it next year as was
originally discussed when we started this shoot. I wanted to do this for two
reasons:

 

1.       I would like to give our marshal' and archers a chance to actually
shoot and enjoy the event for once. Yeah yeah I hear you all that we should
have plenty of help but we don't and we didn't. Once again this year the
core group of marshal's including myself where out there all day long and
didn't shoot the event. We actually only had 7 marshals from other kingdoms
volunteer to help us this year. We needed 70+ marshals to fill the 2 hour
time slots that Baroness Martelle lined up and we had 28 total from
Atlantia. So no I don't want to have to ask any of you again unless the
shoot is in jeopardy of not happening

2.       I wanted to focus my attention on the KWAC as it is going to take
more than one year to plan, arrange and prepare for. 

 

So yes I fully support SSB continuing but I want one of the other Kingdoms
to pick it up. As I also stated if I get any feeling that they are not
interested or going to do a less than stellar job I would ask to pull it
back to Atlantia. We will see as we get later into the year. Also if we do
have to take it back again for the 3rd year, I would like to see more
marshal's and target builders that have not helped in the past 2 years join
the team.

 

In Service,

 

Janyn

 

 

From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of John Atkins
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:46 PM
To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Known World stuff - follow up

 

Having spent my afternoon reading all 1000 plus emails, I am now, mostly, up
to date on this discussion.  As past SSBs have been a, somewhat, joint
effort of all kingdoms attending Pennsic, or at least offered to all, I see
no reason that concept can not be continued.  As for who is the actual lead
kingdom, I think rotating it is a good idea.  My main caveat to that is that
the quality as set by Atlantian be maintained.  But if other kingdoms are
sharing/trading off the actually organization and running there isn't much
Atlantia can do to enforce quality other than have input.  But advice is
like.........well we have all heard that comment!  So let us hope that
Atlantia has set the bar at a level the other kingdoms will strive to at
least achieve if not excel!

 

As for the KWAC, I see no reason this competition could not be done and
should not be done in a multi-kingdom mode as well.  The other model for
this is the Known World Scribal Symposium.  This event rotates around all
the kingdoms in the SCA.  My lady and I attended one in London, England.
More recently, it was held right in our backyard in North Carolina.  No
reason the KWAC could not be done in similar fashion.  If an archer is
really just dying to prove to the known world they are the best, then they
travel to where it is being held.  Kinda like Olympic athletes.  You go
where the competition is.

 

cog

-----Original Message-----
From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of John Atkins
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:47 PM
To: 'Holly Gibbons'; archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Known World stuff

Just returning for three weeks out of country, so if this has been covered
or seems behind the discussion, apologies.

 

I think Atlantia continuing with the St. Sebastian shoot at Pennsic is the
best idea.  I am one of those archers who could, given a good year, perhaps
qualify to be on the "Masters Team" but in recent years have chosen to step
aside and not shoot.  My primary reason for this is twofold.  1 - I do not
shoot well when we shoot 6 shafts for high accuracy then wait 30 - 45
minutes or more to shoot the next station.  2 - More often than not the
shooting stations are not very interesting!  While that may sound harsh,
about any archery at any event in Atlantia has MUCH more interesting
shooting stations.  It's my vacation and I would like to be challenged AND
have fun.  I view the SSB shoot as Atlantia showing the rest of the known
world how to set up and run an interesting novelty shoot that EVERYONE can
enjoy.  I realize doing this shoot is a lot of work but hearing the comments
of those who participate makes it all worth the hassles.  I would hope that
the other kingdoms are learning from Atlantia how to set up a large scale
interesting shoot (apologies if that sounds arrogant but Atlantia has proven
we can do a large scale interesting shoot!).

 

As for "cog's dog and pony show"  (argg!!) my original thought was to
pattern the shoot after the GET at Gulf Wars.  At that event/war, archers
qualify on site on the archery range in the days leading up to the GET.  The
GET shoot then represents the "best of the best" who have shot at that war
and is moved to the main battle field so the populous can watch.  Thus using
things like RR scores, royal's favorites, or "those that always shoot" fall
to the wayside and those who have actually shot the best in the preceding
days at that war are those who qualify.  Running even 100 archers through a
shoot, even using multiple targets, could be very time consuming.  As the
idea is to bring archery out of the back 40 located in Ohio ( :-)  ) at
Pennsic, the shoot has to be coordinated with the battle field
schedule/usage.  That typically means in the later afternoon and done
somewhat quickly.

 

So I think the idea of Atlantian maintaining the SSB and continued
discussion of the Known World Championship is still valid.

 

cog

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