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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just would like to add some clarity to the discussion if I may. No where along the discussion was it ever mentioned that we not continue to either organize and run or support the SSB. My original post was stating that I felt it was time for the East or Mid to step up and run it next year as was originally discussed when we started this shoot. I wanted to do this for two reasons:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would like to give our marshal’ and archers a chance to actually shoot and enjoy the event for once. Yeah yeah I hear you all that we should have plenty of help but we don’t and we didn’t. Once again this year the core group of marshal’s including myself where out there all day long and didn’t shoot the event. We actually only had 7 marshals from other kingdoms volunteer to help us this year. We needed 70+ marshals to fill the 2 hour time slots that Baroness Martelle lined up and we had 28 total from Atlantia. So no I don’t want to have to ask any of you again unless the shoot is in jeopardy of not happening<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wanted to focus my attention on the KWAC as it is going to take more than one year to plan, arrange and prepare for. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So yes I fully support SSB continuing but I want one of the other Kingdoms to pick it up. As I also stated if I get any feeling that they are not interested or going to do a less than stellar job I would ask to pull it back to Atlantia. We will see as we get later into the year. Also if we do have to take it back again for the 3<sup>rd</sup> year, I would like to see more marshal’s and target builders that have not helped in the past 2 years join the team.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In Service,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Janyn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Atkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2012 1:46 PM<br><b>To:</b> archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Known World stuff - follow up<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Having spent my afternoon reading all 1000 plus emails, I am now, mostly, up to date on this discussion. As past SSBs have been a, somewhat, joint effort of all kingdoms attending Pennsic, or at least offered to all, I see no reason that concept can not be continued. As for who is the actual lead kingdom, I think rotating it is a good idea. My main caveat to that is that the quality as set by Atlantian be maintained. But if other kingdoms are sharing/trading off the actually organization and running there isn't much Atlantia can do to enforce quality other than have input. But advice is like.........well we have all heard that comment! So let us hope that Atlantia has set the bar at a level the other kingdoms will strive to at least achieve if not excel!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>As for the KWAC, I see no reason this competition could not be done and should not be done in a multi-kingdom mode as well. The other model for this is the Known World Scribal Symposium. This event rotates around all the kingdoms in the SCA. My lady and I attended one in London, England. More recently, it was held right in our backyard in North Carolina. No reason the KWAC could not be done in similar fashion. If an archer is really just dying to prove to the known world they are the best, then they travel to where it is being held. Kinda like Olympic athletes. You go where the competition is.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>cog</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Atkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2012 12:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Holly Gibbons'; <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Known World stuff</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Just returning for three weeks out of country, so if this has been covered or seems behind the discussion, apologies.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I think Atlantia continuing with the St. Sebastian shoot at Pennsic is the best idea. I am one of those archers who could, given a good year, perhaps qualify to be on the "Masters Team" but in recent years have chosen to step aside and not shoot. My primary reason for this is twofold. 1 - I do not shoot well when we shoot 6 shafts for high accuracy then wait 30 - 45 minutes or more to shoot the next station. 2 - More often than not the shooting stations are not very interesting! While that may sound harsh, about any archery at any event in Atlantia has MUCH more interesting shooting stations. It's my vacation and I would like to be challenged AND have fun. I view the SSB shoot as Atlantia showing the rest of the known world how to set up and run an interesting novelty shoot that EVERYONE can enjoy. I realize doing this shoot is a lot of work but hearing the comments of those who participate makes it all worth the hassles. I would hope that the other kingdoms are learning from Atlantia how to set up a large scale interesting shoot (apologies if that sounds arrogant but Atlantia has proven we can do a large scale interesting shoot!).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>As for "cog's dog and pony show" (argg!!) my original thought was to pattern the shoot after the GET at Gulf Wars. At that event/war, archers qualify on site on the archery range in the days leading up to the GET. The GET shoot then represents the "best of the best" who have shot at that war and is moved to the main battle field so the populous can watch. Thus using things like RR scores, royal's favorites, or "those that always shoot" fall to the wayside and those who have actually shot the best in the preceding days at that war are those who qualify. Running even 100 archers through a shoot, even using multiple targets, could be very time consuming. As the idea is to bring archery out of the back 40 located in Ohio ( :-) ) at Pennsic, the shoot has to be coordinated with the battle field schedule/usage. That typically means in the later afternoon and done somewhat quickly.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>So I think the idea of Atlantian maintaining the SSB and continued discussion of the Known World Championship is still valid.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>cog</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>