[Archers] St. Sebastians III?????

Mon Nov 5 14:12:09 PST 2012

Okay a few points of correction here, you all know by now I like the
"facts"...

1.       There was never a time last year where a line was not overseen by a
marshal. In addition I as the MIC continually was roving the range to assure
nothing bad was happening and to bring "treats" our line marshals. 

2.       This is an Atlantian shoot, don't count on the other Kingdoms to
pull this off. The first year I had 31 marshals from the other kingdoms help
us. Last year that number was down to 9. This is why I posted this
discussion, we either need to be able to be self sufficient or not do this
shoot. I will never know who from the other Kingdoms is willing to help
until we are there at the shoot. The only one I can count on prior to us
leaving for Pennsic is Lord Merlin who always volunteers.

So good discussion but at the same time I wouldn't want to reduce the number
of stations. 10-14 is a good number to showcase a true Atlantian shoot and
provide a great novelty experience. Again with the morning / afternoon
shifts 28 or so line marshals would be able to cover the stations. As far as
over lapping lines go, we only have so much land unless we use the woods
along the clout layout. With that said, we combined all of the similar timed
targets last year so that the entire line could pull at once. I never saw
any bottleneck caused by this and it worked well. 

Again looking for a new MIC this year to step forward and you can change
things as you see fit.

In Service,

Janyn

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[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of michael
sheppard
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:06 AM
To: Cameron deGrey
Cc: Archers
Subject: Re: [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????

I'm not trying to piss on anyone's fire here, but it seems to me and my
experience that getting the other Kingdom marshals to actually sign up and
marshal is worse than herding cats!  Yes I agree that other kingdom marshals
need to be involved, but as past experience suggests, easier said than done.
As I am not a quitter (and I know there was a huge push for additional help
last year) I would never suggesting we stop asking (and cookies/arm sashes
may work), but a contingency plan to include more Atlantian marshals and/or
MIT's should also be in pursued....

saphir

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Cameron deGrey <camerondegrey at gmail.com>
wrote:

I some cases marshaling two lines can be annoying to the shooters. Last
Pennsic I had to call hold while running two lines, and both lines stopped.
Im glad they all listened but which line was I talking to? Minor I know....

Also the marshal running two lines, will likely be between the two, meaning
eyes on one at a time. We all know it only takes a second.

I am with Mungo and others on the kingdom marshals joining the cause. We
should do our best to get but in, and commitment from the other kingdoms
marshals for time on the range, even if bought with cookies.

Cameron

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:01 AM, <dconrad at comporium.net> wrote:

I have to agree with Mungo, perhaps we need to reduce thenumber of targets
in order to have better coverage with Marshals.  Also, reducing the targets
would eliminate some of the problems with overlapping safety areas.  So far,
we've had no big safety problems, but having targets operating with no
Marshals and over lapping safety areas, we are asking for trouble.

I marshalled one of the targets last Pennsic and when I left the range in
the early afternoon, there was no one scheduled to take my place.  I was
assured that there would be someone coming, but don't know if anyone ever
did.  During the hours that I was at my post, I did not see a marshal at the
target to my right.  Archers seemed to be simply coming to the area, reading
the directions and shooting.  The distance from my target to the other was
too far for me to actually check to see if they needed a marshal's help, so
the possiblity of my marshalling two areas was not an option.

I know that many Marshals were at the range for the entire day, which is
dedication above and beyond!  We need to be able to put on a fun and safe
shoot.  Providing adequate Marshals is part of that.  Perhaps we do need to
actively recruit volunteers from other Kingdoms and aas Mungo suggested,
reduce the number of targets to one we can adequately manage.

Aidan Morgana Evans

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