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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Okay a few points of correction here, you all know by now I like the “facts”…..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There was never a time last year where a line was not overseen by a marshal. In addition I as the MIC continually was roving the range to assure nothing bad was happening and to bring “treats” our line marshals. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is an Atlantian shoot, don’t count on the other Kingdoms to pull this off. The first year I had 31 marshals from the other kingdoms help us. Last year that number was down to 9. This is why I posted this discussion, we either need to be able to be self sufficient or not do this shoot. I will never know who from the other Kingdoms is willing to help until we are there at the shoot. The only one I can count on prior to us leaving for Pennsic is Lord Merlin who always volunteers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So good discussion but at the same time I wouldn’t want to reduce the number of stations. 10-14 is a good number to showcase a true Atlantian shoot and provide a great novelty experience. Again with the morning / afternoon shifts 28 or so line marshals would be able to cover the stations. As far as over lapping lines go, we only have so much land unless we use the woods along the clout layout. With that said, we combined all of the similar timed targets last year so that the entire line could pull at once. I never saw any bottleneck caused by this and it worked well. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Again looking for a new MIC this year to step forward and you can change things as you see fit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In Service,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Janyn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>michael sheppard<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 05, 2012 9:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> Cameron deGrey<br><b>Cc:</b> Archers<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I'm not trying to piss on anyone's fire here, but it seems to me and my experience that getting the other Kingdom marshals to actually sign up and marshal is worse than herding cats! Yes I agree that other kingdom marshals need to be involved, but as past experience suggests, easier said than done. As I am not a quitter (and I know there was a huge push for additional help last year) I would never suggesting we stop asking (and cookies/arm sashes may work), but a contingency plan to include more Atlantian marshals and/or MIT's should also be in pursued....<br><br>saphir<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Cameron deGrey <<a href="mailto:camerondegrey@gmail.com" target="_blank">camerondegrey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I some cases marshaling two lines can be annoying to the shooters. Last Pennsic I had to call hold while running two lines, and both lines stopped. Im glad they all listened but which line was I talking to? Minor I know....<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Also the marshal running two lines, will likely be between the two, meaning eyes on one at a time. We all know it only takes a second.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am with Mungo and others on the kingdom marshals joining the cause. We should do our best to get but in, and commitment from the other kingdoms marshals for time on the range, even if bought with cookies.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Cameron<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:01 AM, <<a href="mailto:dconrad@comporium.net" target="_blank">dconrad@comporium.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have to agree with Mungo, perhaps we need to reduce thenumber of targets in order to have better coverage with Marshals. Also, reducing the targets would eliminate some of the problems with overlapping safety areas. So far, we've had no big safety problems, but having targets operating with no Marshals and over lapping safety areas, we are asking for trouble.<br><br>I marshalled one of the targets last Pennsic and when I left the range in the early afternoon, there was no one scheduled to take my place. I was assured that there would be someone coming, but don't know if anyone ever did. During the hours that I was at my post, I did not see a marshal at the target to my right. Archers seemed to be simply coming to the area, reading the directions and shooting. The distance from my target to the other was too far for me to actually check to see if they needed a marshal's help, so the possiblity of my marshalling two areas was not an option.<br><br>I know that many Marshals were at the range for the entire day, which is dedication above and beyond! We need to be able to put on a fun and safe shoot. Providing adequate Marshals is part of that. Perhaps we do need to actively recruit volunteers from other Kingdoms and aas Mungo suggested, reduce the number of targets to one we can adequately manage.<br><br>Aidan Morgana Evans<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Archers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Archers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>