[Archers] St. Sebastians III?????

Sun Nov 4 15:19:02 PST 2012

Saphir, agreed, I think it is a viable possibility if need be!

Janyn

From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of michael
sheppard
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 6:07 PM
To: Jay Nardone
Cc: Archers
Subject: Re: [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????

Janyn,

Yes, safety first, especially w/ Pennsic and it's intricacies ...but along
with COG's idea maybe there's a compromise between a marshal at every
station and not; perhaps something like a 'beach with lifeguards' can
exists; perhaps 1-3 marshals covering the stations that may not need actual
hands-on but rather an over-viewing, overseeing between them an area that
can be seen, and kept secure....
I know it's a concern and a need to be safe...but I think it may propose a
solution...if need be.

Just a thought.
as always, YIS,

Saphir
(formerly a lifeguard)

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jay Nardone <jaynardone at comcast.net> wrote:

COG, thank you for your thoughts. You actually raise a very valid point that
I forgot to mention. You are exactly right in that we might not need a
marshal at every station. My concern was being Pennsic with lots of new
archers, it was nice to have eyes everywhere just in case. Maybe a thought
would be to scale back if need be. Setup and tear down the last 2 years went
absolutely smoothly with minimal effort. Everyone showed up who offered and
we were done in a short amount of time. This past year, we did not
completely reconfigure the range, so we had less to have to put back in
place when we were done. Will be glad to have you back in the crew next
year!

Janyn

From: John Atkins [mailto:cogworks at triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 1:12 PM
To: 'Jay Nardone'; archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: RE: [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????

If the other kingdoms are not champing at the bit to do the St. Sebastian I
think Atlantia should continue.  Now, having said that a few things.

First I think your mention of a marshal at each shooting station is not
neccessary.  At SAAD only those stations requring some form of non-shooter
involvement, i.e. causing motion, timed, are staffed by a marshal.  If we
are an honorable society and we all know archers are THE most honorable
among us, then I don't think a marshal is required for every station.

In my local area we have discussed the need for understudies, i.e.
instigating a mentor system.  As we know, running a shoot of this size
successfully takes a high degree of organization and planning.  Few are able
to simply jump in and "make it happen" without prior experience.  There are
many who would like to jump right in but often their results are less than
satifactory.  As such I think it a good idea to appoint a "deputy" to the
main lead for this shoot.

To elicite more assistance with set up, tear down and marshalling we might
consider offering "bonus points" to those who assist with these activities.
These points could either be added to their shooting score to better
increase their chance of winning or have a "helper's" category with it's own
"prize".  OK, it is flagrant buying of help but it often works.

We missed last year's Pennsic as we had, just had to spend my two weeks in
Italy touring some really old buildings followed by one week in Ireland
trying to wash away my sorrows of missing Pennsic with pints of Guiness.
:-)  However, we are planning on being at Pennsic again next year and am
willing to assist however needed.

cog

-----Original Message-----
From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Jay Nardone
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:35 PM
To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????

Good evening everyone, as we now enter into November (wow where the heck did
this year go?), I wanted to get the pulse of how you the Atlantian Archery
community is feeling about the St. Sebastian's shoot going forward. Before I
contact Lord Godric to find out if the East or Mid are even thinking about
running it, I wanted to find out how you all are feeling about possibly
running it again next year. Now before we go down the path of "absolutely
yes or what are you thinking?" I want to make a few points very clear. I
have already talked with a lot of you and heard comments like "it is one of
the only reasons I want to go to Pennsic," or "it is really the only real
fun I have in martial activities at Pennsic," etc.. That is all fine and
well but I also understand and have talked with quite a few of the regulars
that have given up a good part of their vacations to put this shoot on the
last 2 years. So before I even offer for Atlantia to think about hosting the
shoot again ,I would like to hear your thoughts. I will be very blunt and
open and state that I think it is time for some of our marshal's and archers
who have not helped over the last 2 years to contribute targets and marshal
the event. I perfectly understand if some of our contributors from the last
2 years want to take a year off, they have well deserved that! But, at the
same time we cannot pull off this shoot if we don't have enough target
stations and marshals to run it.

We have tried 2 approaches so far with scheduling for the shoot and I think
I have come up with a 3rd that would ease the numbers we would need. If we
are thinking about 12-14 stations again, I was thinking that if we had a
marshal per station for a 4 hour morning shift, and then they switch with
relief to take the afternoon 4 shift, this would cut the number of needed
marshals down to 28 or so which is about the number of volunteers we get
each year. BUT! This would need to be a majority of folks that have not
stepped up to help over the last 2 years. I'm sure some of you will offer
again such as I, but I would like to see some new faces contributing to what
has become a real staple of Pennsic now! I would offer to organize it again
this year but would also like to see a volunteer to be MIC for the event
next year.

So again, before I contact Godric, what are your thoughts about next year?
Please remember just saying "yes" won't be enough, we will need to backup
your offers with help!

In Service,

Janyn

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