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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saphir, agreed, I think it is a viable possibility if need be!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Janyn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>michael sheppard<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 04, 2012 6:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jay Nardone<br><b>Cc:</b> Archers<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Janyn,<br><br>Yes, safety first, especially w/ Pennsic and it's intricacies ...but along with COG's idea maybe there's a compromise between a marshal at every station and not; perhaps something like a 'beach with lifeguards' can exists; perhaps 1-3 marshals covering the stations that may not need actual hands-on but rather an over-viewing, overseeing between them an area that can be seen, and kept secure....<br>I know it's a concern and a need to be safe...but I think it may propose a solution...if need be.<br><br>Just a thought.<br>as always, YIS,<br><br>Saphir<br>(formerly a lifeguard)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jay Nardone <<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" target="_blank">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>COG, thank you for your thoughts. You actually raise a very valid point that I forgot to mention. You are exactly right in that we might not need a marshal at every station. My concern was being Pennsic with lots of new archers, it was nice to have eyes everywhere just in case. Maybe a thought would be to scale back if need be. Setup and tear down the last 2 years went absolutely smoothly with minimal effort. Everyone showed up who offered and we were done in a short amount of time. This past year, we did not completely reconfigure the range, so we had less to have to put back in place when we were done. Will be glad to have you back in the crew next year!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Janyn</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Atkins [mailto:<a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" target="_blank">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 04, 2012 1:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jay Nardone'; <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>If the other kingdoms are not champing at the bit to do the St. Sebastian I think Atlantia should continue. Now, having said that a few things.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>First I think your mention of a marshal at each shooting station is not neccessary. At SAAD only those stations requring some form of non-shooter involvement, i.e. causing motion, timed, are staffed by a marshal. If we are an honorable society and we all know archers are THE most honorable among us, then I don't think a marshal is required for every station.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>In my local area we have discussed the need for understudies, i.e. instigating a mentor system. As we know, running a shoot of this size successfully takes a high degree of organization and planning. Few are able to simply jump in and "make it happen" without prior experience. There are many who would like to jump right in but often their results are less than satifactory. As such I think it a good idea to appoint a "deputy" to the main lead for this shoot.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>To elicite more assistance with set up, tear down and marshalling we might consider offering "bonus points" to those who assist with these activities. These points could either be added to their shooting score to better increase their chance of winning or have a "helper's" category with it's own "prize". OK, it is flagrant buying of help but it often works.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>We missed last year's Pennsic as we had, just had to spend my two weeks in Italy touring some really old buildings followed by one week in Ireland trying to wash away my sorrows of missing Pennsic with pints of Guiness. :-) However, we are planning on being at Pennsic again next year and am willing to assist however needed.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>cog</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Nardone<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Good evening everyone, as we now enter into November (wow where the heck did this year go?), I wanted to get the pulse of how you the Atlantian Archery community is feeling about the St. Sebastian’s shoot going forward. Before I contact Lord Godric to find out if the East or Mid are even thinking about running it, I wanted to find out how you all are feeling about possibly running it again next year. Now before we go down the path of “absolutely yes or what are you thinking?” I want to make a few points very clear. I have already talked with a lot of you and heard comments like “it is one of the only reasons I want to go to Pennsic,” or “it is really the only real fun I have in martial activities at Pennsic,” etc…. That is all fine and well but I also understand and have talked with quite a few of the regulars that have given up a good part of their vacations to put this shoot on the last 2 years. So before I even offer for Atlantia to think about hosting the shoot again ,I would like to hear your thoughts. I will be very blunt and open and state that I think it is time for some of our marshal’s and archers who have not helped over the last 2 years to contribute targets and marshal the event. I perfectly understand if some of our contributors from the last 2 years want to take a year off, they have well deserved that! But, at the same time we cannot pull off this shoot if we don’t have enough target stations and marshals to run it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We have tried 2 approaches so far with scheduling for the shoot and I think I have come up with a 3<sup>rd</sup> that would ease the numbers we would need. If we are thinking about 12-14 stations again, I was thinking that if we had a marshal per station for a 4 hour morning shift, and then they switch with relief to take the afternoon 4 shift, this would cut the number of needed marshals down to 28 or so which is about the number of volunteers we get each year. BUT! This would need to be a majority of folks that have not stepped up to help over the last 2 years. I’m sure some of you will offer again such as I, but I would like to see some new faces contributing to what has become a real staple of Pennsic now! I would offer to organize it again this year but would also like to see a volunteer to be MIC for the event next year.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>So again, before I contact Godric, what are your thoughts about next year? Please remember just saying “yes” won’t be enough, we will need to backup your offers with help!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In Service,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Janyn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Archers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>