[Archers] St. Sebastians III?????

[michael sheppard]

Janyn,

Yes, safety first, especially w/ Pennsic and it's intricacies ...but along
with COG's idea maybe there's a compromise between a marshal at every
station and not; perhaps something like a 'beach with lifeguards' can
exists; perhaps 1-3 marshals covering the stations that may not need actual
hands-on but rather an over-viewing, overseeing between them an area that
can be seen, and kept secure....
I know it's a concern and a need to be safe...but I think it may propose a
solution...if need be.

Just a thought.
as always, YIS,

Saphir
(formerly a lifeguard)


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jay Nardone <jaynardone at comcast.net> wrote:

> COG, thank you for your thoughts. You actually raise a very valid point
> that I forgot to mention. You are exactly right in that we might not need a
> marshal at every station. My concern was being Pennsic with lots of new
> archers, it was nice to have eyes everywhere just in case. Maybe a thought
> would be to scale back if need be. Setup and tear down the last 2 years
> went absolutely smoothly with minimal effort. Everyone showed up who
> offered and we were done in a short amount of time. This past year, we did
> not completely reconfigure the range, so we had less to have to put back in
> place when we were done. Will be glad to have you back in the crew next
> year!****
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> Janyn****
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> *From:* John Atkins [mailto:cogworks at triad.rr.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 04, 2012 1:12 PM
> *To:* 'Jay Nardone'; archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????****
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> If the other kingdoms are not champing at the bit to do the St. Sebastian
> I think Atlantia should continue.  Now, having said that a few things.****
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> First I think your mention of a marshal at each shooting station is not
> neccessary.  At SAAD only those stations requring some form of non-shooter
> involvement, i.e. causing motion, timed, are staffed by a marshal.  If we
> are an honorable society and we all know archers are THE most honorable
> among us, then I don't think a marshal is required for every station.****
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> In my local area we have discussed the need for understudies, i.e.
> instigating a mentor system.  As we know, running a shoot of this size
> successfully takes a high degree of organization and planning.  Few are
> able to simply jump in and "make it happen" without prior experience.
> There are many who would like to jump right in but often their results are
> less than satifactory.  As such I think it a good idea to appoint a
> "deputy" to the main lead for this shoot.****
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> To elicite more assistance with set up, tear down and marshalling we might
> consider offering "bonus points" to those who assist with these
> activities.  These points could either be added to their shooting score to
> better increase their chance of winning or have a "helper's" category with
> it's own "prize".  OK, it is flagrant buying of help but it often works.**
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> We missed last year's Pennsic as we had, just had to spend my two weeks in
> Italy touring some really old buildings followed by one week in Ireland
> trying to wash away my sorrows of missing Pennsic with pints of Guiness.
> :-)  However, we are planning on being at Pennsic again next year and am
> willing to assist however needed.****
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> *From:* archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [
> mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Jay Nardone
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:35 PM
> *To:* archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> *Subject:* [Archers] St. Sebastians III?????****
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> Good evening everyone, as we now enter into November (wow where the heck
> did this year go?), I wanted to get the pulse of how you the Atlantian
> Archery community is feeling about the St. Sebastian’s shoot going forward.
> Before I contact Lord Godric to find out if the East or Mid are even
> thinking about running it, I wanted to find out how you all are feeling
> about possibly running it again next year. Now before we go down the path
> of “absolutely yes or what are you thinking?” I want to make a few points
> very clear. I have already talked with a lot of you and heard comments like
> “it is one of the only reasons I want to go to Pennsic,” or “it is really
> the only real fun I have in martial activities at Pennsic,” etc…. That is
> all fine and well but I also understand and have talked with quite a few of
> the regulars that have given up a good part of their vacations to put this
> shoot on the last 2 years. So before I even offer for Atlantia to think
> about hosting the shoot again ,I would like to hear your thoughts. I will
> be very blunt and open and state that I think it is time for some of our
> marshal’s and archers who have not helped over the last 2 years to
> contribute targets and marshal the event. I perfectly understand if some of
> our contributors from the last 2 years want to take a year off, they have
> well deserved that! But, at the same time we cannot pull off this shoot if
> we don’t have enough target stations and marshals to run it.****
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> We have tried 2 approaches so far with scheduling for the shoot and I
> think I have come up with a 3rd that would ease the numbers we would
> need. If we are thinking about 12-14 stations again, I was thinking that if
> we had a marshal per station for a 4 hour morning shift, and then they
> switch with relief to take the afternoon 4 shift, this would cut the number
> of needed marshals down to 28 or so which is about the number of volunteers
> we get each year. BUT! This would need to be a majority of folks that have
> not stepped up to help over the last 2 years. I’m sure some of you will
> offer again such as I, but I would like to see some new faces contributing
> to what has become a real staple of Pennsic now! I would offer to organize
> it again this year but would also like to see a volunteer to be MIC for the
> event next year.****
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> So again, before I contact Godric, what are your thoughts about next year?
> Please remember just saying “yes” won’t be enough, we will need to backup
> your offers with help!****
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> In Service,****
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> Janyn****
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