[Archers] Specifically, the 'written exception' rule

Fri Mar 5 07:07:56 PST 2010

My thoughts:

Once a wavier has been issued it could be placed on a list and archived electronically which would work as long as the site was always set up in the same way and had no modifications of either the set up or the actual physical lay out of the site.  i.e. new buildings movement of other activities etc...

This list could be reviewed by MIC's MICTA and others considering a shoot/practice.  Additionally an annual review/change of DEM review could be accomplished easier with an existing data base as well as, allowing the KEM a quick referral repository of shoot locations to determine sites that are not normally used and that will require a wavier etc...

Con

William G. Canuette Jr.

Director of Institutional Research and Planning

Mount Olive College

634 Henderson St.

Mount Olive, NC 28365

Office 919.658.7769

Fax 919.635.3776
wcanuette at moc.edu

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From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of loreleielkins at aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:45 AM
To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Specifically, the 'written exception' rule

I agree that the "written exception" to the rule puts a great burden on the DEM.  We are talking not only about event sites, but practice ranges as well (as I've been reminded).  Many of us have ranges in our backyards where we hold official practices. I would venture to guess that most of these now fall within the category of needing a waiver, including my own home range.

Do we take pictures, draw diagrams, give a verbal description of the site and send this to the DEM?  Does the DEM need to inspect each site personally?  Obviously he can't do that.  Once a waiver is granted for a site, I assume that the waiver is then good permanently for that site.  I wouldn't think that a NEW waiver is needed every time we have an event and use the same range.  If that range changes slightly, do we then need another waiver or are the marshals trusted enough to make that call themselves?

According to the rule: "This waiver must be requested in writing from the DEM-Target Archery only, and approval must be received in writing and retained by the Marshal in charge at the site."  That last part...."retained by the MIC in charge at the site" concerns me too.  The MIC in charge at the site is likely to change frequently, does each new marshal need to obtain a waiver? Is there a way that the waiver can go on file in a specific location, to be printed out for events at a site where a waiver was previously granted?

Thoughts? Ideas?  Comments?

Workin it,
Lorelei

-----Original Message-----
From: Siegfried <siegfried at crossbows.biz>
To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 8:37 am
Subject: [Archers] Specifically, the 'written exception' rule

Kynnyth & Allen ... I would like to open a dialog about the written

exception rule.

There are many awkward situations that this creates.  Not only an

inability to 'adjust to changing site conditions on the fly' as

previously mentioned.  Not only the issue of having a single

point-of-failure on someone's shoulders who cannot personally inspect

every range anyway.

But there are simply innumerate ranges in existence, which now require

written exceptions.  These aren't situations where someone is truly

trying to reduce the zone and squeeze something in, IE: "Well, I only

have 70yds of depth, but I want an archery shoot, so I'll plan on ground

targets only at 5yds and do X/Y/Z to ensure safety, etc"

But are direct cases of obviously safe ranges, that now require written

exceptions.

Such as:

* Every single modern indoor range, all relying on physical walls both

on the sides, and behind the target.

* Numerous public ranges (I have a few in my head), that rely on hills

behind the targets

* Typical 'shooting alongside a building' setups, where you have the

depth, but a side of a building serves as your width regulator.

In Service,

Siegfried

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