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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Once a wavier has been issued it could be
placed on a list and archived electronically which would work as long as the
site was always set up in the same way and had no modifications of either the
set up or the actual physical lay out of the site. i.e. new buildings
movement of other activities etc…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This list could be reviewed by MIC’s
MICTA and others considering a shoot/practice. Additionally an annual
review/change of DEM review could be accomplished easier with an existing data base
as well as, allowing the KEM a quick referral repository of shoot locations to
determine sites that are not normally used and that will require a wavier etc…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>loreleielkins@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 05, 2010 9:45
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Archers]
Specifically, the 'written exception' rule</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I agree that the "written
exception" to the rule puts a great burden on the DEM. We are
talking not only about event sites, but practice ranges as well (as I've been
reminded). Many of us have ranges in our backyards where we hold official
practices. I would venture to guess that most of these now fall within the
category of needing a waiver, including my own home range.<br>
<br>
Do we take pictures, draw diagrams, give a verbal description of the site and
send this to the DEM? Does the DEM need to inspect each site
personally? Obviously he can't do that. Once a waiver is granted
for a site, I assume that the waiver is then good permanently for that
site. I wouldn't think that a NEW waiver is needed every time we have an
event and use the same range. If that range changes <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>slightly</span></i>, do we then need another waiver
or are the marshals trusted enough to make that call themselves?<br>
<br>
According to the rule:<b><span style='font-weight:bold'> "This waiver must
be requested in writing from the DEM-Target Archery only, and approval must be
received in writing and retained by the Marshal in charge at the site."</span></b>
That last part...."retained by the MIC in charge at the site"
concerns me too. The MIC in charge at the site is likely to change
frequently, does each new marshal need to obtain a waiver? Is there a way that
the waiver can go on file in a specific location, to be printed out for events
at a site where a waiver was previously granted?<br>
<br>
Thoughts? Ideas? Comments?<br>
<br>
Workin it,<br>
Lorelei<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: Siegfried <siegfried@crossbows.biz><br>
To: archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br>
Sent: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 8:37 am<br>
Subject: [Archers] Specifically, the 'written exception' rule<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div id="AOLMsgPart_0_e8f94c9e-b07d-4afd-957e-b9071770638f"><pre
style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Kynnyth & Allen ... I would like to open a dialog about the written</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New"><o:p></o:p></font></tt></span></font></pre><pre
style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>exception rule.</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
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<tt><font face="Courier New"><o:p></o:p></font></tt></span></font></pre><pre
style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>There are many awkward situations that this creates. Not only an</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>inability to 'adjust to changing site conditions on the fly' as</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>previously mentioned. Not only the issue of having a single</span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>point-of-failure on someone's shoulders who cannot personally inspect</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New"><o:p></o:p></font></tt></span></font></pre><pre
style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>every range anyway.</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>But there are simply innumerate ranges in existence, which now require</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>written exceptions. These aren't situations where someone is truly</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>trying to reduce the zone and squeeze something in, IE: "Well, I only</span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>have 70yds of depth, but I want an archery shoot, so I'll plan on ground</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>targets only at 5yds and do X/Y/Z to ensure safety, etc"</span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>But are direct cases of obviously safe ranges, that now require written</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New"><o:p></o:p></font></tt></span></font></pre><pre
style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>exceptions.</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
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<tt><font face="Courier New"><o:p></o:p></font></tt></span></font></pre><pre
style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Such as:</span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New"><o:p></o:p></font></tt></span></font></pre><pre
style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>* Every single modern indoor range, all relying on physical walls both</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>on the sides, and behind the target.</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>* Numerous public ranges (I have a few in my head), that rely on hills</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>behind the targets</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New"><o:p></o:p></font></tt></span></font></pre><pre
style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>* Typical 'shooting alongside a building' setups, where you have the</span></font></tt><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>depth, but a side of a building serves as your width regulator.</span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>In Service,</span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Siegfried</span></font></tt><font
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