[Ponte Alto] GMU and Blood Bath....Sir Guy is Sorry.
guylestran at aol.com
guylestran at aol.com
Mon Feb 25 10:41:09 PST 2008
All,
I would like to apologize for some of my wording that was forwarded in
this stream, it was meant for private viewing for a select group, I
retracted my words after my 2nd or 3rd cup of morning coffee and a diet
mountain dew, in another email that didn't make it here. I was just
venting a bit and would like to say I am sorry for my words making it
to this public forum.
Please feel free to send me private emails beating me up, or if you
feel it needs to be public, so be it.
I would rather we focused on helping Sian do a demo at GMU
I remain a sheepish and embarrassed
Sir Guy
"Knighthood Is Only The Beginning."
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole E. Miller <schnauzer2 at cox.net>
To: Katharine Devereaux <katdevereaux at hotmail.com>
Cc: The Barony of Ponte Alto <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] GMU and Blood Bath.
I am also sending this message out to the full Ponte Alto list .
GMU is making things very difficult for us (anyone for that matter) to
do a demo
on campus. As a non-student organization, we would be required to rent
the
space we use for our demo. The rental policy does not differentiate
between a
1-2 hour thing and an all day thing. Regardless of when we do it and
for how
long, we have to pay for the space from 8am to 5pm. All of the outdoor
areas of
the campus are $500-$1000 per day. Major Bummer
A second option that several of us had been tossing around is to start
a student
club on campus. This would allow us use of many of the indoor and
outdoor
spaces free of charge. I checked with the Office of Student Activities
on what
is needed to start a student club. The requirements are:
1. Must have at least eight (8) interested Mason students
2. Each of the eight students must be a currently enrolled Mason
student and
meet the minimum academic achievement record defined as a cumulative
grade point
average (GPA) of a 2.0 or better.
3. The prospective club must secure a member of the Mason faculty/staff
to serve
as the primary advisor to the club. This person must be a full-time
employee (no
adjunct faculty, teaching assistant, graduate assistant, etc.)
4.The club cannot in any way directly duplicate an organization that
already
exists. This includes groups that have been previously organized, but
may
currently be inactive.
5.Agree to abide by all federal, state, and local laws and to the
George Mason
University mission and its policies and procedures.
6. Create an organizational constitution (which has to be approved by
Student
Life Office.
7. Complete all the required forms ie.
Founding Member Roster
Constitution Draft
Advisor Confirmation Form
Student Organization Recognition Form
Then once the Student Organization Recognition Form is processed with
grade
checks, enrollment status checks, and for completeness, the Assistant
Director
for Student Organizations will contact the organization in writing
signifying
the completion of the process and recognition of the organization.
This process
takes months to complete. Another bummer
I qualify for the Faculty/staff advisor role, and Rhiannon (from the
West
Kingdom) and Countess Denise make 2 students. But we would need at
least 6
more.
A third option (and possibly the only real one for us at this time) is
to
convince a current student organization to sponsor our demo and request
the
space in their name. I have looked down the list of registered
student
organizations and its not promising.
What might work, is if we plan a large Saturday or Sunday demo (as
discussed at
the business meeting) like the one from several years ago on the Mall
in DC, and
have it at a park near Mason or at least centrally located in the
Barony, which
we could advertise on campus as well as several local papers. We may
be able to
accomplish something really special.
Sian
Chamberlain and GMU demo committee minion
---- Katharine Devereaux <katdevereaux at hotmail.com> wrote:
=============
Thank you for asking. As Sir Strykar had said, 3 Bloodbaths ago, there
was an
article in the Washington Post about the SCA the week before the event
listed in
the "what's happening" section. As a group, we handed out over 1000
flyers to
people who stopped by to see what we did. From what I heard (I was not
there) it
was stressful for many who were involved, not only the fighters, but
those who
had to deal with the various people who had no clue what they were
looking at
and children running around and into the fighting field. There were
many others
that truly enjoyed the teaching and sharing with the public.
One of the biggest issues was that we had no new members as a result of
the
article and all the crowds of people.
The basis for the decision was that it was not clear that there was
enough
support to manage the crowds properly. We have the physical stuff to do
this
(list fence for boundries and flyers), but not the people for this.
I strongly believe that the barony wants new members, but after the
last round
of public advertising, does not believe that is the way. Targeted
advertising,
targeted demos (not just those we do for educational facilities) word
of mouth
are where I think we need to head this.
I'm all for targeting GMU and seeing what we can do on that campus as a
constant
stream of new people (and use of the facilities for either events or a
fighter
practice.. :))
Katharine
Baronial Seneschal
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Middleton
To: guylestran at aol.com
Cc: srsqrd at gmail.com ; Max.Nelson at gd-ais.com ; flonzy at hotmail.com ;
maxntropy at att.net ; schnauzer2 at cox.net ; jcfrench at mac.com ;
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michael.plotts at usdoj.gov ; scott at cozaddigital.com ; steve.hick at ngc.com
;
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: GMU and Blood Bath.
That's.... disappointing. Might I ask what the basis for this
decision was?
And was there a vote taken? If so, then we will have to be more
religious about
showing up for business meetings. Of course, that's not a bad idea,
all in all.
Will we need Ponte Alto's approval to advertise for the GMU event?
YiS,
Aethilgar / Stephen
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:52 AM, <guylestran at aol.com> wrote:
Wll the Barony pussed out of advertising for Blood Bath, one would
think that they don't want new people. I am now sorry I missed the
meeting. I still think we should asvertise at GMU for it though.
Rhianon sent this to me on Sunday.
<<<will you be going to the business meeting at all? we really need
to
decide on a date so we can plan for advertising.
do you know if anyone has a pre-made flier about the SCA in general?
those would be great to leave in the offices at the theater,
history,
anthropology academic depts. etc.
~ Rhiannon>>>
"Knighthood Is Only The Beginning."
set of locations, so the "committee" will expand.
>>
>>
>>
>> The (Bloodbath) advertisement "committee" as Sir Thomas and Sir
Guy
with
>> support from me as developed out of the Baronial Meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> The syllabus "committee" out of the War Council meeting is Sir
Strykar,
>> myself, Aethilgar, and Sir Brian.
>>
>>
>>
>> The GMU "committee" is Sian and Rhiannon supported by Sir Guy
(and
>> whatever else they need by folks like myself, Sir Thomas, and
others
who are
>> really psyched about this effort).
>>
>>
>>
>> The War Council is a very large group of folks across the region
(myself,
>> Sir Guy, Sir Thomas, Sir Strykar, Sir Brian, Sir Grethfyrth, Sir
Michael,
>> Sir Eldrid, Sir Tash, Connor, Finn, Duke Bedouin, Turgeis,
Jurgen,
Kollack,
>> and I hope I'm not missing anybody but probably am).
>>
>>
>>
>> You'll note that I put the word in quotes because I think your
question
>> implied more formality in structure and process than was meant,
implied or
>> exists in reality. The War Council realized a need for a
syllabus
and to
>> promote some recruitment so got some folks together to push that
forward.
>> Calling it a "committee" sounding more official-like than
calling
it a
>> group, flock, or pack. I think a number of additional tasks
needing
>> "groups/flocks/packs/committees" will be generated from the next
War
Council
>> meeting which is forthcoming, so I can let you know more then.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>>
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Stephen Middleton [mailto:aethilgar at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:10 AM
>> *To:* Nelson, Max
>> *Cc:* James Barker; guylestran at aol.com; maxntropy at att.net;
>> schnauzer2 at cox.net; rhiannon_kilrain at yahoo.com;
connorsinclair at yahoo.com;
>> katdevereaux at hotmail.com; bbrown1382 at aol.com;
eldrid at viscounteldrid.com;
>> gfabic at prodigy.net; jcfrench at mac.com; kkepple at cms.hhs.gov;
>> michael.plotts at usdoj.gov; scott at cozaddigital.com;
srsqrd at gmail.com;
>> steve.hick at ngc.com; hicksc at bellatlantic.net; thrid at aol.com;
>> adamspf at comcast.net; finn67 at yahoo.com; maxntropy at gmail.com;
>> dcadenise at aol.com
>> *Subject:* Re: GMU and Blood Bath.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who is on the recruitment committee and how can things be
submitted
to
>> them?
>>
>> In fact, can we get a list of the committees, their chairs, and
their
>> current tasks? It would be helpful knowing such so that we
know; 1)
who to
>> contact with ideas and offers of assistance, 2) so that we do not
work at
>> cross-purposes and step on people's toes.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Nelson, Max
<Max.Nelson at gd-ais.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> As per the Recruitment Committee, Connor has the basic format of
the
>> flyer we decided upon weeks ago and was going to get it to you
for
>> graphic finalization and formatting (doing your magic, getting
the
>> little pull-off tabbies with phone numbers on the bottom, etc...)
and to
>> Sir Michael and me for final text approval (short but witty
descriptive
>> paragraph on the bottom with a catchy header).
>>
>> We've had a plan on how to move forward with recruitment
post-flyer,
but
>> haven't been able to move sans-flyer.
>>
>> We've been waiting.
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Barker [mailto:flonzy at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:28 AM
>>
>> To: guylestran at aol.com; maxntropy at att.net; schnauzer2 at cox.net;
>> rhiannon_kilrain at yahoo.com; connorsinclair at yahoo.com;
>> katdevereaux at hotmail.com
>>
>> Cc: aethilgar at gmail.com; bbrown1382 at aol.com;
eldrid at viscounteldrid.com;
>> gfabic at prodigy.net; jcfrench at mac.com; kkepple at cms.hhs.gov;
>>
>> michael.plotts at usdoj.gov; scott at cozaddigital.com;
srsqrd at gmail.com;
>> steve.hick at ngc.com; hicksc at bellatlantic.net; thrid at aol.com;
>>
>> adamspf at comcast.net; finn67 at yahoo.com; maxntropy at gmail.com;
>>
>> dcadenise at aol.com; Nelson, Max
>> Subject: RE: GMU and Blood Bath.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I can design what we need in what ever format they need, I am a
graphic
>> designer and have all the adobe products on hand I just need to
know
the
>> size the add will be.
>>
>> On the demo end of things I just normally ask for volunteers and
people
>> donate their time. I have a bunch of arms and armor I take
myself to
>> demos normally; right now it is in storage but I plan to bring
it our
>> soon for our move anyway. Even if I could not make the demo
myself I
can
>> send what I have along and I have lots of outfits for a tall guy
so
if
>> we need to leand out some clothing just let me know.
>>
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: guylestran at aol.com
>> > Subject: Re: GMU and Blood Bath.
>> >
>> >
>> > I think a small add might not hurt. We might want to see where
we
have
>> > other college representation in the area also.
>> >
>> > well, the cost would depend on the size of the ad and whether
we
want
>> > it in color.
>> > the absolute smallest/cheapest ad is $96, a full page is around
$900.
>> > if we have the paper staff design it add $25-$50 (depending on
ad
>> size)
>> > if we want color add another $100.
>> >
>> > ~Rhiannon
>>
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