[Ponte Alto] GMU and Blood Bath.
Nicole E. Miller
schnauzer2 at cox.net
Mon Feb 25 10:30:46 PST 2008
I am also sending this message out to the full Ponte Alto list .
GMU is making things very difficult for us (anyone for that matter) to do a demo on campus. As a non-student organization, we would be required to rent the space we use for our demo. The rental policy does not differentiate between a 1-2 hour thing and an all day thing. Regardless of when we do it and for how long, we have to pay for the space from 8am to 5pm. All of the outdoor areas of the campus are $500-$1000 per day. Major Bummer
A second option that several of us had been tossing around is to start a student club on campus. This would allow us use of many of the indoor and outdoor spaces free of charge. I checked with the Office of Student Activities on what is needed to start a student club. The requirements are:
1. Must have at least eight (8) interested Mason students
2. Each of the eight students must be a currently enrolled Mason student and meet the minimum academic achievement record defined as a cumulative grade point average (GPA) of a 2.0 or better.
3. The prospective club must secure a member of the Mason faculty/staff to serve as the primary advisor to the club. This person must be a full-time employee (no adjunct faculty, teaching assistant, graduate assistant, etc.)
4.The club cannot in any way directly duplicate an organization that already exists. This includes groups that have been previously organized, but may currently be inactive.
5.Agree to abide by all federal, state, and local laws and to the George Mason University mission and its policies and procedures.
6. Create an organizational constitution (which has to be approved by Student Life Office.
7. Complete all the required forms ie.
Founding Member Roster
Constitution Draft
Advisor Confirmation Form
Student Organization Recognition Form
Then once the Student Organization Recognition Form is processed with grade checks, enrollment status checks, and for completeness, the Assistant Director for Student Organizations will contact the organization in writing signifying the completion of the process and recognition of the organization. This process takes months to complete. Another bummer
I qualify for the Faculty/staff advisor role, and Rhiannon (from the West Kingdom) and Countess Denise make 2 students. But we would need at least 6 more.
A third option (and possibly the only real one for us at this time) is to convince a current student organization to sponsor our demo and request the space in their name. I have looked down the list of registered student organizations and its not promising.
What might work, is if we plan a large Saturday or Sunday demo (as discussed at the business meeting) like the one from several years ago on the Mall in DC, and have it at a park near Mason or at least centrally located in the Barony, which we could advertise on campus as well as several local papers. We may be able to accomplish something really special.
Sian
Chamberlain and GMU demo committee minion
---- Katharine Devereaux <katdevereaux at hotmail.com> wrote:
=============
Thank you for asking. As Sir Strykar had said, 3 Bloodbaths ago, there was an article in the Washington Post about the SCA the week before the event listed in the "what's happening" section. As a group, we handed out over 1000 flyers to people who stopped by to see what we did. From what I heard (I was not there) it was stressful for many who were involved, not only the fighters, but those who had to deal with the various people who had no clue what they were looking at and children running around and into the fighting field. There were many others that truly enjoyed the teaching and sharing with the public.
One of the biggest issues was that we had no new members as a result of the article and all the crowds of people.
The basis for the decision was that it was not clear that there was enough support to manage the crowds properly. We have the physical stuff to do this (list fence for boundries and flyers), but not the people for this.
I strongly believe that the barony wants new members, but after the last round of public advertising, does not believe that is the way. Targeted advertising, targeted demos (not just those we do for educational facilities) word of mouth are where I think we need to head this.
I'm all for targeting GMU and seeing what we can do on that campus as a constant stream of new people (and use of the facilities for either events or a fighter practice.. :))
Katharine
Baronial Seneschal
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Middleton
To: guylestran at aol.com
Cc: srsqrd at gmail.com ; Max.Nelson at gd-ais.com ; flonzy at hotmail.com ; maxntropy at att.net ; schnauzer2 at cox.net ; jcfrench at mac.com ; rhiannon_kilrain at yahoo.com ; connorsinclair at yahoo.com ; katdevereaux at hotmail.com ; bbrown1382 at aol.com ; eldrid at viscounteldrid.com ; gfabic at prodigy.net ; kkepple at cms.hhs.gov ; michael.plotts at usdoj.gov ; scott at cozaddigital.com ; steve.hick at ngc.com ; hicksc at bellatlantic.net ; thrid at aol.com ; adamspf at comcast.net ; finn67 at yahoo.com ; maxntropy at gmail.com ; dcadenise at aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: GMU and Blood Bath.
That's.... disappointing. Might I ask what the basis for this decision was? And was there a vote taken? If so, then we will have to be more religious about showing up for business meetings. Of course, that's not a bad idea, all in all.
Will we need Ponte Alto's approval to advertise for the GMU event?
YiS,
Aethilgar / Stephen
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:52 AM, <guylestran at aol.com> wrote:
Wll the Barony pussed out of advertising for Blood Bath, one would
think that they don't want new people. I am now sorry I missed the
meeting. I still think we should asvertise at GMU for it though.
Rhianon sent this to me on Sunday.
<<<will you be going to the business meeting at all? we really need to
decide on a date so we can plan for advertising.
do you know if anyone has a pre-made flier about the SCA in general?
those would be great to leave in the offices at the theater, history,
anthropology academic depts. etc.
~ Rhiannon>>>
"Knighthood Is Only The Beginning."
set of locations, so the "committee" will expand.
>>
>>
>>
>> The (Bloodbath) advertisement "committee" as Sir Thomas and Sir Guy
with
>> support from me as developed out of the Baronial Meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> The syllabus "committee" out of the War Council meeting is Sir
Strykar,
>> myself, Aethilgar, and Sir Brian.
>>
>>
>>
>> The GMU "committee" is Sian and Rhiannon supported by Sir Guy (and
>> whatever else they need by folks like myself, Sir Thomas, and others
who are
>> really psyched about this effort).
>>
>>
>>
>> The War Council is a very large group of folks across the region
(myself,
>> Sir Guy, Sir Thomas, Sir Strykar, Sir Brian, Sir Grethfyrth, Sir
Michael,
>> Sir Eldrid, Sir Tash, Connor, Finn, Duke Bedouin, Turgeis, Jurgen,
Kollack,
>> and I hope I'm not missing anybody but probably am).
>>
>>
>>
>> You'll note that I put the word in quotes because I think your
question
>> implied more formality in structure and process than was meant,
implied or
>> exists in reality. The War Council realized a need for a syllabus
and to
>> promote some recruitment so got some folks together to push that
forward.
>> Calling it a "committee" sounding more official-like than calling
it a
>> group, flock, or pack. I think a number of additional tasks needing
>> "groups/flocks/packs/committees" will be generated from the next War
Council
>> meeting which is forthcoming, so I can let you know more then.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>>
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Stephen Middleton [mailto:aethilgar at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:10 AM
>> *To:* Nelson, Max
>> *Cc:* James Barker; guylestran at aol.com; maxntropy at att.net;
>> schnauzer2 at cox.net; rhiannon_kilrain at yahoo.com;
connorsinclair at yahoo.com;
>> katdevereaux at hotmail.com; bbrown1382 at aol.com;
eldrid at viscounteldrid.com;
>> gfabic at prodigy.net; jcfrench at mac.com; kkepple at cms.hhs.gov;
>> michael.plotts at usdoj.gov; scott at cozaddigital.com; srsqrd at gmail.com;
>> steve.hick at ngc.com; hicksc at bellatlantic.net; thrid at aol.com;
>> adamspf at comcast.net; finn67 at yahoo.com; maxntropy at gmail.com;
>> dcadenise at aol.com
>> *Subject:* Re: GMU and Blood Bath.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who is on the recruitment committee and how can things be submitted
to
>> them?
>>
>> In fact, can we get a list of the committees, their chairs, and their
>> current tasks? It would be helpful knowing such so that we know; 1)
who to
>> contact with ideas and offers of assistance, 2) so that we do not
work at
>> cross-purposes and step on people's toes.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Nelson, Max <Max.Nelson at gd-ais.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> As per the Recruitment Committee, Connor has the basic format of the
>> flyer we decided upon weeks ago and was going to get it to you for
>> graphic finalization and formatting (doing your magic, getting the
>> little pull-off tabbies with phone numbers on the bottom, etc...)
and to
>> Sir Michael and me for final text approval (short but witty
descriptive
>> paragraph on the bottom with a catchy header).
>>
>> We've had a plan on how to move forward with recruitment post-flyer,
but
>> haven't been able to move sans-flyer.
>>
>> We've been waiting.
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Barker [mailto:flonzy at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:28 AM
>>
>> To: guylestran at aol.com; maxntropy at att.net; schnauzer2 at cox.net;
>> rhiannon_kilrain at yahoo.com; connorsinclair at yahoo.com;
>> katdevereaux at hotmail.com
>>
>> Cc: aethilgar at gmail.com; bbrown1382 at aol.com;
eldrid at viscounteldrid.com;
>> gfabic at prodigy.net; jcfrench at mac.com; kkepple at cms.hhs.gov;
>>
>> michael.plotts at usdoj.gov; scott at cozaddigital.com; srsqrd at gmail.com;
>> steve.hick at ngc.com; hicksc at bellatlantic.net; thrid at aol.com;
>>
>> adamspf at comcast.net; finn67 at yahoo.com; maxntropy at gmail.com;
>>
>> dcadenise at aol.com; Nelson, Max
>> Subject: RE: GMU and Blood Bath.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I can design what we need in what ever format they need, I am a
graphic
>> designer and have all the adobe products on hand I just need to know
the
>> size the add will be.
>>
>> On the demo end of things I just normally ask for volunteers and
people
>> donate their time. I have a bunch of arms and armor I take myself to
>> demos normally; right now it is in storage but I plan to bring it our
>> soon for our move anyway. Even if I could not make the demo myself I
can
>> send what I have along and I have lots of outfits for a tall guy so
if
>> we need to leand out some clothing just let me know.
>>
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: guylestran at aol.com
>> > Subject: Re: GMU and Blood Bath.
>> >
>> >
>> > I think a small add might not hurt. We might want to see where we
have
>> > other college representation in the area also.
>> >
>> > well, the cost would depend on the size of the ad and whether we
want
>> > it in color.
>> > the absolute smallest/cheapest ad is $96, a full page is around
$900.
>> > if we have the paper staff design it add $25-$50 (depending on ad
>> size)
>> > if we want color add another $100.
>> >
>> > ~Rhiannon
>>
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