[MR] How to Make a Peer?

Logan Logan at ebonwoulfe.com
Tue Mar 20 10:50:41 PDT 2012


there are many factors the crown should consider and many that are "given".
so, assuming the candidate in question meets the entry criteria (active,
good ambassador, knowledgeable, etc) there are factors unique to each
peerage. education / performance for the laurel, service for the pelican,
and combat skill for the chivalry.  i will take the one i can best describe,
the chivalry.

we dont have a watch list because our potential member pool is small and the
test by which candidates enter that pool is intimate.  meaning, those whose
skill level is approaching consideration is someone that most of us have
fought or trained with.  typically the more "we" talk about a fighter the
closer they are to consideration.  and knights are a chatty bunch, i assure
you of that!  once the candidates skill level is high enough there are more
discussions of their worthiness of being recognized as a peer. 

at some point "we" will suggest to the crown that they poll for that
individual.  or, the crown will ask for a polling. sometimes a polling will
be done just to get a feeling for where the candidate is in the opinion of
the order. the crown is only obligated to ask our opinion but most crowns
honor those opinions and very rare are the cases where a knighting is
political or perceived to be so, even with so many variants in kingdom
cultures.

regards
logan

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Sir Theron - 


More than anything I was asking for a peek 'behind the scenes...'  What is
the process in bringing a person to the point where the Crown would ask for
a polling?  I can assume that the Crown wouldn't publicly ask for such a
polling if there was any real doubt as to the outcome...


I know there is the 'apprenticeship' concept (red-belts, etc...)  But is it
a performance issue ('I put my time in...') or an ability ('I got mad
skills...') or a temperament ('I can do that...') or some mystical summation
of all three?

Corwyn (apologies, I can't recall the correct title right now...) described
the 'polling' as a process of the current members submitting their
thoughts/comments on the suitability of the candidate.  What makes a person
suitable?  I know that a term like 'continued excellence beyond the norm' is
a good description but not really explanatory...

I also know that there is a desirable attitude for Peers to have (thanks to
Mistress Molly for her thoughts!), but is that all it is?


I think if I understood the process leading up the the investiture ceremony
(thank you to Baron Otto for such an excellent description of that aspect!)
more fully I would be able to formulate a more precise question...

Dughall-Eoghann LeGrannd
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