[MR] How to Make a Peer?

[Dryw Freed]

Well, I don't know about peerages, but I can certainly confirm that the
knights are a chatty bunch. In case anyone doubted that.
:-)

Dryw

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Logan <Logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:

> there are many factors the crown should consider and many that are "given".
> so, assuming the candidate in question meets the entry criteria (active,
> good ambassador, knowledgeable, etc) there are factors unique to each
> peerage. education / performance for the laurel, service for the pelican,
> and combat skill for the chivalry.  i will take the one i can best
> describe,
> the chivalry.
>
> we dont have a watch list because our potential member pool is small and
> the
> test by which candidates enter that pool is intimate.  meaning, those whose
> skill level is approaching consideration is someone that most of us have
> fought or trained with.  typically the more "we" talk about a fighter the
> closer they are to consideration.  and knights are a chatty bunch, i assure
> you of that!  once the candidates skill level is high enough there are more
> discussions of their worthiness of being recognized as a peer.
>
> at some point "we" will suggest to the crown that they poll for that
> individual.  or, the crown will ask for a polling. sometimes a polling will
> be done just to get a feeling for where the candidate is in the opinion of
> the order. the crown is only obligated to ask our opinion but most crowns
> honor those opinions and very rare are the cases where a knighting is
> political or perceived to be so, even with so many variants in kingdom
> cultures.
>
> regards
> logan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Douglas
> Grant
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:44 PM
> To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] How to Make a Peer?
>
> Sir Theron -
>
>
> More than anything I was asking for a peek 'behind the scenes...'  What is
> the process in bringing a person to the point where the Crown would ask for
> a polling?  I can assume that the Crown wouldn't publicly ask for such a
> polling if there was any real doubt as to the outcome...
>
>
> I know there is the 'apprenticeship' concept (red-belts, etc...)  But is it
> a performance issue ('I put my time in...') or an ability ('I got mad
> skills...') or a temperament ('I can do that...') or some mystical
> summation
> of all three?
>
> Corwyn (apologies, I can't recall the correct title right now...) described
> the 'polling' as a process of the current members submitting their
> thoughts/comments on the suitability of the candidate.  What makes a person
> suitable?  I know that a term like 'continued excellence beyond the norm'
> is
> a good description but not really explanatory...
>
> I also know that there is a desirable attitude for Peers to have (thanks to
> Mistress Molly for her thoughts!), but is that all it is?
>
>
> I think if I understood the process leading up the the investiture ceremony
> (thank you to Baron Otto for such an excellent description of that aspect!)
> more fully I would be able to formulate a more precise question...
>
> Dughall-Eoghann LeGrannd
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