[MR] Egyptian Personas in the SCA

[Logan]

the sca cant.  simply put too many folks are too scared to be the "bad guy"
otherwise there would be no coleman chairs, no ez-ups, no aztecs or samurais
on the field, no blue jeans, no pirates (none), no maille bikini clad
harlots, no cabaret belly dancers not completely covered in clothes (please,
please, please make that happen!).  the sca as a whole ignores the rules and
most folks are afraid to enforce it.  hell, the marshallate in atlantia has
an appearance standard (which simply enforces the long time laws in corpora
that require appearance at any sca event) and yet folks still get
"authorized" with blue jeans and tennis shoes.  and there are folks that
suggest that new atlantian fighters require some months to comply as if they
cant learn to comply before they attempt an authorization?  really?

the sca really is nothing but a social club that has some "rules" that dont
matter.  some sca folks care about the organization and its rules.  some
dont and they feel entitled to ignore them, some of them even think its cool
to argue against the rules.  they are like apple owners who think being
different makes you cool even if my windows machine can still do everything
theirs can and a whole lot more.  ;^)  being different doesnt make you cool,
only odd.

regards
logan 

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vengeance need not be feared"
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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of William de
Faleston
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:31 PM
To: Merry Rose
Subject: Re: [MR] Egyptian Personas in the SCA

But the problem is that we have to draw the line somewhere, and in those
cases, someone has to say something. I don't want a stormtroopers at an
event, no matter how cool, inspired or well-researched his blaster is. 

The real question is where we draw the line. Stormtroopers are obvious. Elf
ears are pretty clear cut too. After that, it gets q bit more blurry. 

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On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Maymunah al Siqilliyah <alsiqilliyah at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The problem with telling them they are wrong is that it doesn't work.  If
you what you want is a lot of cool, inspired people to play with, then
insulting anyone who doesn't fit will not meet your goals.
> 
> The best thing is to make doing it right look like fun and making them
want to follow you.  You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
> 
> On 6/4/2011 8:45 PM, Logan wrote:
>> so how do you, with "courtesy", tell someone that their storm trooper 
>> outfit doesnt fit into the sca?  your charge is that there isnt a way 
>> to tell someone they are doing something wrong.  i disagree.  the 
>> whole "lets be nice and never say no to anyone and lets create awards 
>> and peerages and tokens for everyone" is, in my opinion, the worst
problem the sca has.
>> 
>> so, i have to ask, if someone showed up in said storm trooper gig why 
>> would you be unable to politely tell them that it didnt belong?
>> 
>> logan
>> 
>> "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought 
>> it was hell."
>> Harry S Truman
>> "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his 
>> vengeance need not be feared"
>> Niccolo Machiavelli
>> For your SCA combat needs please visit:
>> www.ebonwoulfe.com/armory.htm
>> 
>> www.ebonwoulfe.com
>> 
>> For worldwide listings of fighter practices please visit:
>> www.fighterpractice.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Gina 
>> Shelley
>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 8:18 PM
>> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
>> Subject: Re: [MR] Egyptian Personas in the SCA
>> 
>> 
>> I would submit that there is no polite way to do that. And since the 
>> rule that OUGHT to trump any other rule is that of showing as much 
>> courtesy as we can manage, we have a bit of a conflict, it would seem.
>> 
>> Although the "pharoah hat", admittedly, would possibly fall under the 
>> new coronet foolishness of late...
>> 
>> Dulcy
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>> 
>>> If someone interested in recreating a fatimid persona wants to visit
>>>     
>> Western Europe with his/her arts to display, I will welcome them with 
>> polite interest.  If you walk around in a pleated cotton kilt and a 
>> pharoah hat, I will politely call you on it.
>> 
>> 
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