[MR] Egyptian Personas in the SCA

[Logan]

you assume an insult.

i can tell someone they should rethink something without insulting them.
well, not everyone, lots of folks choose to be insulted way easier than
others.  being insulted is a choice.  ive never been insulted.  ive been
wrong plenty of times, but nobody has ever had so much "power" as to
"insult" me.  why on earth would you assume that telling someone they are
wrong is an insult?  that makes no sense.

ive also told plenty of people they are doing something wrong, educated
them, and corrected them.  very little of that in the sca but more than i
can recall in the kitchen.

regards
logan

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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Maymunah al
Siqilliyah
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 8:56 PM
To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Egyptian Personas in the SCA

The problem with telling them they are wrong is that it doesn't work.  
If you what you want is a lot of cool, inspired people to play with, then
insulting anyone who doesn't fit will not meet your goals.

The best thing is to make doing it right look like fun and making them want
to follow you.  You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

On 6/4/2011 8:45 PM, Logan wrote:
> so how do you, with "courtesy", tell someone that their storm trooper 
> outfit doesnt fit into the sca?  your charge is that there isnt a way 
> to tell someone they are doing something wrong.  i disagree.  the 
> whole "lets be nice and never say no to anyone and lets create awards 
> and peerages and tokens for everyone" is, in my opinion, the worst problem
the sca has.
>
> so, i have to ask, if someone showed up in said storm trooper gig why 
> would you be unable to politely tell them that it didnt belong?
>
> logan
>
> "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought 
> it was hell."
> Harry S Truman
> "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his 
> vengeance need not be feared"
> Niccolo Machiavelli
> For your SCA combat needs please visit:
> www.ebonwoulfe.com/armory.htm
>
> www.ebonwoulfe.com
>
> For worldwide listings of fighter practices please visit:
> www.fighterpractice.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Gina 
> Shelley
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 8:18 PM
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] Egyptian Personas in the SCA
>
>
> I would submit that there is no polite way to do that. And since the 
> rule that OUGHT to trump any other rule is that of showing as much 
> courtesy as we can manage, we have a bit of a conflict, it would seem.
>
> Although the "pharoah hat", admittedly, would possibly fall under the 
> new coronet foolishness of late...
>
> Dulcy
>
>
>    
>>
>> If someone interested in recreating a fatimid persona wants to visit
>>      
> Western Europe with his/her arts to display, I will welcome them with 
> polite interest.  If you walk around in a pleated cotton kilt and a 
> pharoah hat, I will politely call you on it.
>
>
>
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