[MR] Question about fighters & unpassed heraldry

[Beverly Robinson-Curry]

I'm gonna have to disagree with part of this, beloved sister.

> This gives you the right to display your arms. Until then...

There is _no_ restriction prohibiting the non-armigerous (those who haven't
been awarded arms by the Crown) from registering heraldry.  Or from
displaying that which they register.  The difference is that before they
become armigerous, we call the design a "device" rather than "arms" (and a
badge is a badge is a badge).

There are some restrictions on the display, specifically, the 'achievement',
based upon the rank the individual has attained, but that's a
neither-here-nor-there with regard to new fighters.  ;-)  They just want a
tabard or shield cover.

And more heraldic display is a GOOD THING(tm)!!!  Go heraldry!!!


Rhiannon 

Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill
Pearl Herald (Ceremony)
Azure Decrescent Herald (Personal Title)
House Corvus, Barony of Hawkwood, Kingdom of Atlantia

I am the master of my fate.
I am the captain of my soul.
                   -Henley


> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-
> bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Sunniva Kyrre
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:13 AM
> To: Merry Rose
> Subject: Re: [MR] Question about fighters & unpassed heraldry
> 
> When we recieve an award in court that is armigious, it is read into
> court
> and on the scroll
> "..... here bestow upon<name> and Award of Arms and here confer upon
> [him/her] all the honours, privileges, and responsibilities inherent
> thereunto. In recognition of this, We here Award unto <name> the sole
> right
> to bear without hindrance these arms to wit: <blazon> ."
> 
> This gives you the right to display your arms. Until then the best
> option is
> a simple tabbard is best.  You will not accidently display something
> that is
> registered to someone else. You will not have to remake it if what you
> want
> is not available.
> 
> Sunniva
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amie Sparrow" <troenwolf at hotmail.com>
> To: "Merry Rose" <atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:23 AM
> Subject: [MR] Question about fighters & unpassed heraldry
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I have a question about unpassed heraldry. My husband is a new heavy
> > fighter (Fighter 1) and I have another friend who is also a new heavy
> > fighter (Fighter 2). I am working with the assumption that fighters
> need
> > heraldry.
> >
> > What do we do in a situation where the heraldry has not been
> submitted
> > yet? The two situations are slightly different.
> >
> > Fighter 1 - Has passed heraldry, but wants new scarier heraldry.
> Should he
> > use his current heraldry until the new heraldry gets approved? Or can
> he
> > start using the new scarier heraldry because he likes it better?
> >
> > Fighter 2 - Does not have heraldry at all. What should she do? Can
> she
> > create a tabbard with heraldry that is being submitted while the
> > submission works its way through the heraldic review process?
> >
> > Fighter 3 - For good measure, I'm going to assume that there is at
> least
> > one new person reading the Merry Rose and wants to fight, but doesn't
> have
> > the foggiest idea of what heraldry he or she wants. What should that
> > person do if that person wants to fight at an event?
> >
> > You can assume that none of these fighters is going to be in a crown
> > tournament before heraldry is passed, so we can remove that
> possiblity
> > from the discussion.
> >
> > I have skimmed the SCA Marshall's Handbook and the Atlantian Book of
> > Policy. I did not find anything that implied a fighter had to have
> > heraldry at all (much to my surprise).
> >
> > What should these fighters do?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Amie
> >
> >
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