[MR] Promissory

Tue Oct 19 14:19:54 PDT 2010

Tymothe,

A "Promissory" scroll is generally a piece of paper with basic wording and maybe some coloring on it for an award.  They are generally used when someone is given some type of award at the last minute and the Clerk Signet or Herald did not have time before the event to have someone actually produce the scroll for the person.

Promissories are a generic format for each award that the crowns have brought to the event and then all they have to do is literally fill in the blank with the name of the person, name of the event, date and the signatures.

Gaelan

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From: Eric Rankin <jensman0514 at yahoo.com>
To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Tue, Oct 19, 2010 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: [MR] Promissory

Praytell, fair folk, what is a Promissory?  I've gathered it's a document of 
ome kind, but what does it mean?
Tymothe

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ent: Tue, October 19, 2010 7:03:27 AM
ubject: Re: [MR] Promissory
Lady Eleanor of Grey has a CD of her original art work that she will gladly
and out to be used as promissory.  
ine
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Once upon a time in a kingdom not so far away, for years it was a rarity to
ee 
 real scroll. You had to be really special and getting a huge award if you
ere 
o get a real scroll. Everything else was photocopied black & white, and
hen 
and-painted (markers, watercolor, etc). 
or a promissory, I don't see a big issue with photocopied & hand-colored 
crolls. They're quick & easy, you could have a few varying designs handy,
nd 
oloring in is not rocket science. Something nicer than Dover patterns would
e 
etter appreciated though, I think. I wonder if we have some illuminators
ut 
here that would be willing to create templates?
- Isabelle LaFar
ttp://www.HouseBarra.com
xperience is what you get, when things go awry.

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rom: Lora Franks <zombiellama at att.net>
o: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
ent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:06:47 AM
ubject: Re: [MR] Was: Newcomers Thread, Now: Promissories
Greetings all!
here is actually a need still for promissories.  While it is awesome to
ave 
ompleted scrolls, it is sometimes not the best option.  We are moving away
rom 
iving scrolls at war.  People are not prepared to transport them safely
ome.  
onsidering the many hours of work that goes into even the simplest of
crolls, 
e do not want them destroyed.  Also, there are occasions when there is a
ast 
inute recommendation to Their Majesties (or a planned award that the person
unexpectedly showed for this event) and a promissory is all the scribes have
time to create.  There are also times when we know that the person receiving
he 
croll would prefer a specific scribe do the scroll or they want to wait
ntil 
heir arms have passed (no longer a requirement but frequently a choice).
nd, 
t is a good draw for new scribes at events because it is not as
ntimidating.
owever, we moved away from promissories for two main reasons.  One was that
people were starting to put as much time and effort into a promissory as
hey 
ould have put into a finished scrolls.  If you are going to take the time
o do 
alligraphy and hand paint the promissory...make a scroll.  Another factor
as 
hat with so much effort going into promissories, the backlog was getting
uge.
f someone wants to pick up and make some promissories, I'm sure that we
ill 
ave the opportunity to use them.  There are even still templates on the
lerk 
ignet web site.  I would like to add a couple of requests if you chose to
ake 
romissories for the Kingdom though.
lease use a nice marker or paint and avoid colored pencils or crayon.  Do
ot 
pend as much time on them as a finished scroll, however, keep in mind that
any 
eople frame their promissory and their finished scroll.  Please add a note
n 
he back in pencil which reads "Please contact the Clerk Signet at Signet AT
Atlantia Dot SCA DoT Org to replace this promissory with a scroll."  (you
an 
se the @ symbols on the scroll)
f you are considering presenting some to Their Majesties, please show them
he 
romissories but present them with a notice that you/your group has given X 
umber of promissory blanks to the Clerk Signet and then mail or give the 
romissories to me for organizing and distributing to lead scribes and Their
Majesties.
ow, before you go wild making tons of promissories...my goal is to only
ver 
eed 1 or 2 promissories at any given event and have the rest as finished 
crolls.  Take a look at the Royal Progress events and realize that we will
ot 
eed a large number of promissories.  We _will_ need a large number of
crolls.  
f your group makes 40 promissories for King Bryan and Queen Brianna, we may
reach the end of the reign without using them and those extras would go to 
aste.
n that note, while everyone is talking about ways to connect with people at
events and promissories were/are an option, I would also like to suggest
hat 
and made Thank You cards are an excellent item for gift baskets at all
evels 
for class instructors, Baronial gift baskets, autocrat supplies, etc.)  You
could do a small design which is easily finished at the event and have
omething 
hat is a contribution to the Barony or Kingdom.  If you make them with 
croll-like designs you will also help get the new scribe's feet wet that
ay.  
t is also a fantastic place to practice calligraphy so that you can make
ome 
croll blanks later....just an idea.
Baroness Tegan de Moreton
ndine Pursuivant
lerk of the Signet

n 10/18/2010 12:03 PM, ldmolly at md.metrocast.net wrote:
 Hi Hrothny! And greetings to the others still gathered in the Tavern as
ell!

 We used to have those in Caid as well...I _loved_ them! We did a lot of 
Newcomer scrolls that way. It was a great way to bring folks together,
rovide 
service to the group as a whole...and for many future scribes, it was a
reat, 
non-threatening way to "get their feet wet" at trying scribal arts. We went
>through a lot of crayola markers, but as you said, a great many friends
ere 
made and for many people, those first scrolls were dearly treasured.Molly

 On Sun 10/17/10 2:57 PM , "Terri Morgan" online2much at cox.net sent:
 I wish we had something like the old promissory 'scrolls' to have at
vents.
 <SNIP>

 Hrothny

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