[MR] scrolls and such

[padrgroups at charter.net]

This has, in fact, already been done.  Mistress Genna started this by creating several templates for Logan and Isabel to use.  Duchess Kyneburh and I both created several electronic promissory templates with standard phrasing and period woodcut elements on them.  These were saved and passed on to the next royals.  There is no reason they cannot be reused, and this discussion is prompting me to think I should go find the files on my computyer and send them to the Clerk of the Signet.

Padraigin

---- "Nicole E. Miller" <schnauzer2 at cox.net> wrote: 
> What if the powers that be (ie Clerk of the Signet) created a scroll template for various common awards that could be filled out with the information (kind of like the blank certificates you can get at Staples) that specifically states that is a promissory scroll.  It could be printed out on nice parchment paper (even in color to include the Barony's or orders device and be in a calligraphy font.    This would free up the scribes and illuminators to spend their time doing the really nice official scrolls and remove some of the back log.  It could be something that only the official herald or seneschal could access (so nobody just prints one out for themselves).  Just an idea, I do not mean to step on the creative toes out there.
> 
> In service to the dream,
> Sian verch Gwilim ap Lewelin
> Ponte Alto
> 
> 
> ---- Becky McEllistrem <bmcellis at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> 
> > 
> > The Clerk of the Signet oversees the production of
> > scrolls of all
> > sorts.  
> 
> Actually there's a concept called private commissions
> that constitutes a private agreement between a scribe
> and a recipient which does not include the Clerk
> except to notify them that the responsibility for the
> scroll is taken care of.
> 
> 
> > 
> > That distinction does not excuse willful production
> > of "crappy"
> > promissories. Before anyone gets their knickers
> > twisted tightly, please
> > note that I make no specific claim about the state
> > of promissory scroll
> > production now or previously. I'm certain that the
> > excuse *has* been
> > trotted out at times, however. Given that some
> > people may never 
> > register a name and device, it seems to make sense
> > to produce quality
> > promissories. I know that there has been
> > considerable drama expressed
> > in various quarters on this particular point which I
> > have no desire
> > to recapitulate here.
> 
> 
> Quality is a relative term and promissories generate
> different feelings across all people.  Since
> promissories are a meant to be a temporary place
> holder until a hand done illuminated scroll can be
> produced, how much effort applied to them is decided
> by the Clerk's office.  This is a subjective decision
> that changes from officer to officer.
> 
> Rebecca
> 
> 
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