[MR] newbie

chrissings at juno.com chrissings at juno.com
Tue Sep 3 15:02:27 PDT 2002


Your Highness, et. al.

I too tried to respond to this Lady personally but my message bounced as
well.

As Kingdom Chatelaine and as a member of the Altian populace, I was
greatly distressed to read this message.

My lady, please contact me directly at chrissings at juno.com.  I would like
correspond directly with you.

Yours in Service,
Baroness Arianna Morgan
Kingdom Chatelaine



On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:15:12 -0700 "Tricia
Donadio"<padraigin at earthlink.net> writes:
> My dear lady:
> 
> First, do you have a name and e-mail address?  I tried to respond 
> privately
> but it bounced.  I am deeply sorry that the experience you had at
> your first event was not positive.  Was this your first SCA event in 
> any
> kingdom?  Where do you live in our fair Kingdom?  I can tell you 
> that His
> Higness and I feel very strongly about newcomers- we were new once, 
> too.  It
> is our intention to foster better newcomer activites and interfaces 
> to make
> sure that we don't leave our "newbies" unattended or forgotten.  We 
> have, in
> fact, challenged the populace to help newcomers with their garb, and
> hopefully, build friendships in the process. It sounds as though you 
> may not
> be in need of clothing assistance, so that challenge wouldn't 
> necessarily help
> you.  However, we do also have officers called Chatelaines who are 
> responsible
> for newcomers.  At your next event, please ask at troll if there are 
> any
> newcomer activites, or if there is a Chatelaine, and you will 
> probably find
> yourself inundated with people to take you around for the day.
> 
> If you will be attending Coronation this weekend, you will find at 
> least one
> newcomer activity, and I welcome you to come introduce yourself to 
> me.  I will
> likely be rather busy, so I may not have a lot of time to spare, but 
> I would
> certaily like to make your acquaitance.  I hope your next event is a 
> great
> improvement upon your last experience.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Princess Padraigin
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:55:23 EDT Eventblues at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > I attended my first event in Atlantia not very
> > long ago.  I won't say where 
> > or when.  I would like to describe my
> > experience and see if you can come to 
> > some consensus for an answer.
> > Saturday, during the event, I could get almost
> > noone to talk to me.  
> > I was dressed appropriately in period garb --
> > nothing ostentatious but not 
> > cheap or gawdy looking, -- period cut and
> > fabric (linen and wool cotehardie) 
> > -- quality sewing skills and am not new to
> > costuming.  I am a reasonably 
> > attractive female (many people say I am
> > pretty), and in middle age, not over 
> > or underweight.  No hairlips or missing body
> > parts. I am not in any way 
> > physically repulsive.  I bathed and wore
> > deodorant, changed my underwear, 
> > brushed my teeth and wore no perfume.  I was
> > not trying to pick up men (I am 
> > married), but trying to make friends primarily
> > with other women.
> > However, no matter how many people I tried to
> > make friends with -- people 
> > just generally ignored me.  I tried to strike
> > up conversations with different 
> > folks who were not otherwise engaged in an
> > activity.  They would make polite 
> > conversation for about 1 minute, then leave. 
> > Later, they would look at me as 
> > if I did not exist.
> > I have good social skills, have a college
> > degree that is not in some aspect 
> > of medieval life -- so I could have things to
> > talk about.  But, no one would 
> > give me the chance.
> > No one ever invited me to sit with their group
> > of friends for a minute.  No 
> > one ever approached me unless I approached
> > them.  I even offered to help 
> > people out with some of the work.
> > Many people would not even make eye contact
> > with me during the day.
> > And, I noticed that I was not the only one at
> > the event in that "no man's 
> > land".  Many other people were likewise
> > ostracized.  By about 3:00, I just 
> > gave up and sat in a corner and watched what
> > was going on.
> > The people at my feast table were nice (they
> > were newbies, too).
> > But when the feast was over, the cliques of
> > folks started again.  I looked 
> > around for some of the other folks who had been
> > "left out", but they all left 
> > either before, or as soon as the feast was
> > over.
> > Now I realize that folks like to visit with
> > their friends, but does mean 
> > excluding people  who could add to your list of
> > friends?  Does no one have a 
> > heart when someone is obviously new or in
> > unfamiliar surroundings?  I admit 
> > that I am a little shy, but I have a good sense
> > of humor and have a lot to 
> > contribute.  But noone bothered to find out.
> > Not sure I will ever go to another event.
> > Any suggestions?
> > 
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