[MR] raising and lowering expectations
pandora at his.com
pandora at his.com
Fri May 31 11:32:20 PDT 2002
Frankly, we should stretch them as far as necessary to allow everyone a chance
to participate. Now before you jump, I do qualify that with, if the person is
not making an attempt because they cannot be bothered rather than they cannot
do not have the experience then I have an issue with that.
But frankly, for a weekend event where I have to travel 6 hours to get there I
am not going to pack my period pavillion and the trappings just to get there at
midnight or 1 am and have to set it up in the dark, or god forbid wait til the
morning and then turn right around and take it down again after one day.
What I am getting at is there are ways to encourage people to participate and
encourage them to get more period stuff. To date, I have not seen THAT tact
used in event announcements. What I have seen has been discouragement.
Just my two tugriks worth.
chimbai
> how far should we stretch those limits then? if we find orange and green
> hillary tents to be acceptable whats next? i think the trend has been going
> the other way over the last few years. original containers, blue jeans
> under tunics, coleman chairs, etc all seem to be the norm these days.
> personally i find that to be a more disturbing trend. when i go to a court
> and the couple sitting in nice period style (or at least resembling a period
> style) chairs, with nice garb, drinking from period vessels look out of
> place in a sea of jeans and nylon chairs and mountain dew bottles, i think
> we have become too slack and allowed too much.
>
> just my opinion
>
> logan
>
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> [mailto:atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of pandora at his.com
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: James.Harvey.Davis at pmusa.com
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> Subject: RE: [MR] Festus Autumnus
>
>
> Gerlach,
>
> Thanks for the reply however I think you are missing my point. I realize
> that
> there might be enough cabin space but this is not the first event
> announcement
> that I have seen that states something like this. I find it a disturbing
> trend.
>
> Usually when it is stated that there is cabin space it is a limited amount
> and
> usually it is barracks style camping. There are people who are not
> comfortable
> with that type of arrangement and/or may not be able to rest in that type of
> arrangement. If they do not have a period pavillion in this type of
> situation
> they are then excluded from participating. I have even seen one event
> announcement (I believe it was a crown tourney or coronation) that actually
> stated that non-period tents are discouraged.
>
> As I said, I find this attitude disturbing. The SCA has always been a more
> or
> less inclusive group but this is not what I am seeing with announcements
> like
> this.
>
> That is the point I am trying to make but thanks for your differing point of
> view.
>
> Chimbai
>
>
> > Chimbai,
> >
> > I think that you might be looking at this from the wrong angle.
> > Rather than being exclusionary for those who don't have Period Pavillions,
> I
> > would say it's rather that there are cabins for people to sleep in and if
> > you have gone to the extra effort to get/maintain a period pavillion, you
> > may camp in it, if you chose to do so.
> >
> > If there was not cabin space, the site probably wouldn't be used.
> >
> > Gerlach
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pandora at his.com [SMTP:pandora at his.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:16 PM
> > > To: Gracie V .Boone
> > > Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> > > Subject: Re: [MR] Festus Autumnus
> > >
> > > So by this announcement am I correct in assuming that if you do not take
> a
> > >
> > > cabin space and do not have a period pavillion you cannot camp?
> > >
> > > If that is a correct assumption, when have we become so discriminatory
> > > that we
> > > will not allow people to participate because they do not or cannot
> afford
> > > a
> > > period pavillion. Yes I realize there is cabin space at this point but
> > > suppose
> > > there was not?
> > >
> > > chimbai
> > >
> > >
> > > > Greetings to all in the Tavern this day...
> > > >
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> > > > (documentation requested, but not required) Entries will be separated
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> > > > original containers). Cabin spaces are available and tenting is
> > > > permitted in Period Pavilions only.
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