[MR] raising and lowering expectations
pandora at his.com
pandora at his.com
Fri May 31 11:57:51 PDT 2002
Ok, good if you can do it cheaply. Perhaps those that know the secret can help
out those that don't (ok I know alot of you do). I do not see many university
classes on doing things period on a budget etc. I also do not see alot of
articles in the newsletters for the same thing. That might be an interesting
topic of discussion.
Here is my contribution for a start.
I was web serfing and found some plans for a collapsable box. It is made out of
1 sheet of plywood and 4-5 1x4's and 8 loose pin hinges.
I was able to make two boxes out of these materials using a jigsaw, hammer,
nails, screws, a drill, a couple of bits and glue.
The nice thing is it can be made waterproof and the larger of the boxes will
hold a fair size cooler with enough room to store the empty bottles from you
home brew. it is also sturdy enough to sit on.
Here is the web site.
http://robyyan.home.mindspring.com/articles/breakdown.html
I would use this one because he has corrected an error in the measurements and
I am not sure the ones on www.greydragon.org have been updated.
Chimbai
> While I understand your opinion, I also am finding out, through research and
> helpful friends, that sometimes, doing things more authentic is easier and
> cheaper. We were just discussing on another list, about how to do Pennsic
> without a cooler. No running for ice all they time. Period foods that
> taste good, and even fresh eggs every day, with out a cooler. I wish I had
> found out about that list a long time ago. I would have saved some money on
> those silly chairs, and fabric to make them look "more medieval"
>
> My two pence,
>
> Medb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren" <lauren at silverquill.net>
> To: "Logan" <dukelogan at directvinternet.com>; "Atlantia"
> <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [MR] raising and lowering expectations
>
>
> > I agree that some slackness is inexcusable. It is not difficult to pour a
> > drink into a mug and throw away the original container. However, the
> > general populace does not always have the time, money, and space to
> > replicate entire living arrangements in the style of periodness. Most
> > people do not have the vehicles to carry all this equipment, and most are
> > excluded from parking where they wish to unload the heavy and obtuse
> > equipment. I know I use nylon chairs because I don't think I could carry
> a
> > wooden bench from the parking lots to the field let alone my cabin without
> > damaging some internal bone structure. Period tenting as well is heavy
> and
> > VERY expensive. I just don't see how its practical for the populous to be
> > held to these lofty expectations.
> >
> > My opinion as well as many others,
> > Engelsvind
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Logan" <dukelogan at directvinternet.com>
> > To: "Atlantia" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:34 PM
> > Subject: [MR] raising and lowering expectations
> >
> >
> > how far should we stretch those limits then? if we find orange and green
> > hillary tents to be acceptable whats next? i think the trend has been
> going
> > the other way over the last few years. original containers, blue jeans
> > under tunics, coleman chairs, etc all seem to be the norm these days.
> > personally i find that to be a more disturbing trend. when i go to a
> court
> > and the couple sitting in nice period style (or at least resembling a
> period
> > style) chairs, with nice garb, drinking from period vessels look out of
> > place in a sea of jeans and nylon chairs and mountain dew bottles, i think
> > we have become too slack and allowed too much.
> >
> > just my opinion
> >
> > logan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org
> > [mailto:atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of pandora at his.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:57 PM
> > To: James.Harvey.Davis at pmusa.com
> > Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> > Subject: RE: [MR] Festus Autumnus
> >
> >
> > Gerlach,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply however I think you are missing my point. I realize
> > that
> > there might be enough cabin space but this is not the first event
> > announcement
> > that I have seen that states something like this. I find it a disturbing
> > trend.
> >
> > Usually when it is stated that there is cabin space it is a limited amount
> > and
> > usually it is barracks style camping. There are people who are not
> > comfortable
> > with that type of arrangement and/or may not be able to rest in that type
> of
> > arrangement. If they do not have a period pavillion in this type of
> > situation
> > they are then excluded from participating. I have even seen one event
> > announcement (I believe it was a crown tourney or coronation) that
> actually
> > stated that non-period tents are discouraged.
> >
> > As I said, I find this attitude disturbing. The SCA has always been a more
> > or
> > less inclusive group but this is not what I am seeing with announcements
> > like
> > this.
> >
> > That is the point I am trying to make but thanks for your differing point
> of
> > view.
> >
> > Chimbai
> >
> >
> > > Chimbai,
> > >
> > > I think that you might be looking at this from the wrong angle.
> > > Rather than being exclusionary for those who don't have Period
> Pavillions,
> > I
> > > would say it's rather that there are cabins for people to sleep in and
> if
> > > you have gone to the extra effort to get/maintain a period pavillion,
> you
> > > may camp in it, if you chose to do so.
> > >
> > > If there was not cabin space, the site probably wouldn't be used.
> > >
> > > Gerlach
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: pandora at his.com [SMTP:pandora at his.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:16 PM
> > > > To: Gracie V .Boone
> > > > Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [MR] Festus Autumnus
> > > >
> > > > So by this announcement am I correct in assuming that if you do not
> take
> > a
> > > >
> > > > cabin space and do not have a period pavillion you cannot camp?
> > > >
> > > > If that is a correct assumption, when have we become so discriminatory
> > > > that we
> > > > will not allow people to participate because they do not or cannot
> > afford
> > > > a
> > > > period pavillion. Yes I realize there is cabin space at this point but
> > > > suppose
> > > > there was not?
> > > >
> > > > chimbai
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Greetings to all in the Tavern this day...
> > > > >
> > > > > The decadence of Rome awaits you high in the mountains of Crannog
> Mor.
> > > > > Come one, come all and cheer your favorite gladiator onto victory.
> > > > > Reserve early! Spend your day fighting, feasting and reveling in
> the
> > > > > splendour that was Rome!
> > > > >
> > > > > Arts and Sciences: Rome has always been a place of beauty as well as
> > > > > strength. Categories for competition will include: Brewing and
> > Vinting
> > > > > (documentation requested, but not required) Entries will be
> separated
> > > > > into 3 categories: Beers, Wines, Cordials. Winners will be selected
> > by
> > > > > popular vote (ID required to judge). Our Bardic Competition will
> have
> > > > > an open format and in keeping with the theme of the day, an open A&S
> > > > > competition for all things Roman will also be held. Documentation is
> > > > > required.
> > > > > Martial Activities:Will include Heavy, Rapier, Archery and Thrown
> > > > > Weapons.
> > > > > Site: The Site will be Camp Skyranch , 634 Sky Ranch Road, Boone, NC
> > > > > 28607 Site opens at noon on Friday, Sept 13 and closes at 6pm on
> > Sunday
> > > > > September 15. Site is handicapped accessible. Discreetly wet (NO
> > > > > original containers). Cabin spaces are available and tenting is
> > > > > permitted in Period Pavilions only.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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