[MR] raising and lowering expectations
Medb ingen Adomnain
medb at bellsouth.net
Fri May 31 12:12:51 PDT 2002
http://65.102.22.82/tents/furniture.htm
Medieval camping resources. I think we should have some Uni classes on
authenticity. I know I would attend...
Medb
----- Original Message -----
From: <pandora at his.com>
To: "Medb ingen Adomnain" <medb at bellsouth.net>; <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MR] raising and lowering expectations
> Ok, good if you can do it cheaply. Perhaps those that know the secret can
help
> out those that don't (ok I know alot of you do). I do not see many
university
> classes on doing things period on a budget etc. I also do not see alot of
> articles in the newsletters for the same thing. That might be an
interesting
> topic of discussion.
>
> Here is my contribution for a start.
>
> I was web serfing and found some plans for a collapsable box. It is made
out of
> 1 sheet of plywood and 4-5 1x4's and 8 loose pin hinges.
>
> I was able to make two boxes out of these materials using a jigsaw,
hammer,
> nails, screws, a drill, a couple of bits and glue.
>
> The nice thing is it can be made waterproof and the larger of the boxes
will
> hold a fair size cooler with enough room to store the empty bottles from
you
> home brew. it is also sturdy enough to sit on.
>
> Here is the web site.
>
> http://robyyan.home.mindspring.com/articles/breakdown.html
>
> I would use this one because he has corrected an error in the measurements
and
> I am not sure the ones on www.greydragon.org have been updated.
>
> Chimbai
>
>
>
>
> > While I understand your opinion, I also am finding out, through research
and
> > helpful friends, that sometimes, doing things more authentic is easier
and
> > cheaper. We were just discussing on another list, about how to do
Pennsic
> > without a cooler. No running for ice all they time. Period foods that
> > taste good, and even fresh eggs every day, with out a cooler. I wish I
had
> > found out about that list a long time ago. I would have saved some
money on
> > those silly chairs, and fabric to make them look "more medieval"
> >
> > My two pence,
> >
> > Medb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lauren" <lauren at silverquill.net>
> > To: "Logan" <dukelogan at directvinternet.com>; "Atlantia"
> > <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MR] raising and lowering expectations
> >
> >
> > > I agree that some slackness is inexcusable. It is not difficult to
pour a
> > > drink into a mug and throw away the original container. However, the
> > > general populace does not always have the time, money, and space to
> > > replicate entire living arrangements in the style of periodness. Most
> > > people do not have the vehicles to carry all this equipment, and most
are
> > > excluded from parking where they wish to unload the heavy and obtuse
> > > equipment. I know I use nylon chairs because I don't think I could
carry
> > a
> > > wooden bench from the parking lots to the field let alone my cabin
without
> > > damaging some internal bone structure. Period tenting as well is
heavy
> > and
> > > VERY expensive. I just don't see how its practical for the populous
to be
> > > held to these lofty expectations.
> > >
> > > My opinion as well as many others,
> > > Engelsvind
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Logan" <dukelogan at directvinternet.com>
> > > To: "Atlantia" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:34 PM
> > > Subject: [MR] raising and lowering expectations
> > >
> > >
> > > how far should we stretch those limits then? if we find orange and
green
> > > hillary tents to be acceptable whats next? i think the trend has been
> > going
> > > the other way over the last few years. original containers, blue
jeans
> > > under tunics, coleman chairs, etc all seem to be the norm these days.
> > > personally i find that to be a more disturbing trend. when i go to a
> > court
> > > and the couple sitting in nice period style (or at least resembling a
> > period
> > > style) chairs, with nice garb, drinking from period vessels look out
of
> > > place in a sea of jeans and nylon chairs and mountain dew bottles, i
think
> > > we have become too slack and allowed too much.
> > >
> > > just my opinion
> > >
> > > logan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org
> > > [mailto:atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of pandora at his.com
> > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:57 PM
> > > To: James.Harvey.Davis at pmusa.com
> > > Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> > > Subject: RE: [MR] Festus Autumnus
> > >
> > >
> > > Gerlach,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply however I think you are missing my point. I
realize
> > > that
> > > there might be enough cabin space but this is not the first event
> > > announcement
> > > that I have seen that states something like this. I find it a
disturbing
> > > trend.
> > >
> > > Usually when it is stated that there is cabin space it is a limited
amount
> > > and
> > > usually it is barracks style camping. There are people who are not
> > > comfortable
> > > with that type of arrangement and/or may not be able to rest in that
type
> > of
> > > arrangement. If they do not have a period pavillion in this type of
> > > situation
> > > they are then excluded from participating. I have even seen one event
> > > announcement (I believe it was a crown tourney or coronation) that
> > actually
> > > stated that non-period tents are discouraged.
> > >
> > > As I said, I find this attitude disturbing. The SCA has always been a
more
> > > or
> > > less inclusive group but this is not what I am seeing with
announcements
> > > like
> > > this.
> > >
> > > That is the point I am trying to make but thanks for your differing
point
> > of
> > > view.
> > >
> > > Chimbai
> > >
> > >
> > > > Chimbai,
> > > >
> > > > I think that you might be looking at this from the wrong angle.
> > > > Rather than being exclusionary for those who don't have Period
> > Pavillions,
> > > I
> > > > would say it's rather that there are cabins for people to sleep in
and
> > if
> > > > you have gone to the extra effort to get/maintain a period
pavillion,
> > you
> > > > may camp in it, if you chose to do so.
> > > >
> > > > If there was not cabin space, the site probably wouldn't be used.
> > > >
> > > > Gerlach
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: pandora at his.com [SMTP:pandora at his.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:16 PM
> > > > > To: Gracie V .Boone
> > > > > Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [MR] Festus Autumnus
> > > > >
> > > > > So by this announcement am I correct in assuming that if you do
not
> > take
> > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > cabin space and do not have a period pavillion you cannot camp?
> > > > >
> > > > > If that is a correct assumption, when have we become so
discriminatory
> > > > > that we
> > > > > will not allow people to participate because they do not or cannot
> > > afford
> > > > > a
> > > > > period pavillion. Yes I realize there is cabin space at this point
but
> > > > > suppose
> > > > > there was not?
> > > > >
> > > > > chimbai
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings to all in the Tavern this day...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The decadence of Rome awaits you high in the mountains of
Crannog
> > Mor.
> > > > > > Come one, come all and cheer your favorite gladiator onto
victory.
> > > > > > Reserve early! Spend your day fighting, feasting and reveling
in
> > the
> > > > > > splendour that was Rome!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Arts and Sciences: Rome has always been a place of beauty as
well as
> > > > > > strength. Categories for competition will include: Brewing and
> > > Vinting
> > > > > > (documentation requested, but not required) Entries will be
> > separated
> > > > > > into 3 categories: Beers, Wines, Cordials. Winners will be
selected
> > > by
> > > > > > popular vote (ID required to judge). Our Bardic Competition
will
> > have
> > > > > > an open format and in keeping with the theme of the day, an open
A&S
> > > > > > competition for all things Roman will also be held.
Documentation is
> > > > > > required.
> > > > > > Martial Activities:Will include Heavy, Rapier, Archery and
Thrown
> > > > > > Weapons.
> > > > > > Site: The Site will be Camp Skyranch , 634 Sky Ranch Road,
Boone, NC
> > > > > > 28607 Site opens at noon on Friday, Sept 13 and closes at 6pm
on
> > > Sunday
> > > > > > September 15. Site is handicapped accessible. Discreetly wet
(NO
> > > > > > original containers). Cabin spaces are available and tenting is
> > > > > > permitted in Period Pavilions only.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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