[MR] November Laurel Heraldry Acceptances

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Tue Feb 19 05:20:58 PST 2002


Greetings to Atlantia from Lord Michael Batcok, Triton Principal Herald.

The following items were ACCEPTED by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms at his 
November meeting:

ATLANTIA

Anne Marie de Lucy. Name.

    The LoI stated, "The submitter requested an authentic
    'Anglo-Norman' name. However, when queried about the conflict between
    having a double given name and authenticity, the double given name was
    preferred." Given this information, we are registering the name in
    the submitted form. As it has two given names, it is not authentic for
    the submitter's desired Anglo-Norman language/culture.

Art{'u}r mac Lochlainn. Badge. Per pale vert and sable, two axes in
saltire within an annulet argent.

Atlantia, Kingdom of. Household name Company of Saint Aidan and
badge. (Fieldless) A stag's head cabossed within and conjoined to an
annulet Or.

    Submitted as an order name with the name Order of Saint Aiden, updated
    information provided by Kingdom is that this is not an order. As such,
    the designator Order is not appropriate. We have therefore changed the
    designator to Company. Additionally, all documentation found was for
    the spelling Aidan, not Aiden. We have made this correction.

Avelyn MacGregor. Name and device. Azure, on a cross between four
leaves argent a rose gules.

    The submitter requested authenticity for Scots language/culture. As we
    have no evidence that the given name Avelyn was used in Scotland, we
    were unable to make this name authentic.

Bronwen O'Riordan. Device. Argent, three feathers in pile sable and on
a chief dovetailed azure a cat dormant argent.

Catr{i'}ona Macraith. Device. Azure, a cat sejant dexter forepaw
raised argent charged on the shoulder with a lozenge sable on a chief
enarched argent two iris flowers azure marked argent slipped vert.

Ciar inghean u{i'} hEidirsce{o'}il. Device change. Per pale argent and
sable, a besom and a scythe crossed in saltire counterchanged.

    The submitter's previous device, Per pale argent and sable, a scythe
    and a besom crossed in saltire counterchanged, is released.

Eir{i'}kr inn danski. Name and device. Per chevron gules and Or, two
griffins combattant and a dragon segreant maintaining a mace
counterchanged.

    Listed on the LoI as Eirikr inn danski, the name was originally
    submitted as Eir{i'}kr inn danski.  We have returned the given
    name to the submitted form. Since the byname inn danski means 'the
    Dane', there was a question regarding whether this name conflicts
    with the various kings of Denmark who were named Eric. There are
    precedents that address this situation:

        [<name> Lietuvos, meaning <name> the Lithuanian>] While prior
        Laurel precedent has returned the form '{Name} the
        {Nationality}', we do not find this presumptuous of the ruler
        of the country in the same way or to the same degree that,
        say, '{Name} of {Nation}' would. Hence, we do not find that
        this name conflicts with <name>, King of Lithuania. (LoAR
        12/91 p.12).

        <Given Name> the Breton should no more conflict with <same
        Given Name>, Duke of Brittany, than Richard the Englishman
        would with Richard, King of England. (LoAR 10/90 p.2).

    Therefore, the submitted name is not a conflict with these kings of
    Denmark.  This name does not a conflict with Eric the Dane (registered
    January 1993 via the East) since descriptive bynames conflict via
    sound and appearance, not meaning (per RfS V.1.a.ii). The byname inn
    danski is significantly different in sound and appearance from the
    Dane, so they do not conflict.

    A bit of trivia: the submitter lives in Denmark, South Carolina.

    Good name!

E{o'}in {O'} hEochaidh. Alternate name Johannes von Eisenach.

Hergeirr {Th}r{a'}insson. Name and device. Per chevron sable and
gules, two bull's heads cabossed Or armed gules and a double-bitted
axe argent.

    Some commenters thought that the field division here might be
    chap{e'}. Both the large- and small-sized emblazons show this as a
    per chevron field rather than a chap{e'} field, as the line of
    division does not touch the top of the shield. Chap{e'} is always
    drawn touching the top of the shield. Thus there is no problem
    with the unregisterable design of a chap{e'} field charged on the
    upper portion.

Ihone Munro. Name.

    Submitted as Ian Munro, the submitter requested authenticity for 1590s
    to 1600s Scottish language/culture and allowed any changes. Though the
    name Ian, a modern Scots form of "John", was ruled SCA compatible in
    April of 1997, no evidence has been found that it is period. Effric
    neyn Kenyeoch vc Ralte's article "Early 16th Century Scottish Lowland
    Names" (http://www.MedievalScotland.org/scotnames/lowland16/) lists a
    number of Scots forms of "John" including Johne and Jhone among
    others. This article also mentions that the letters "i" and "j" were
    sometimes used interchangeably. Black (s.n. MacAlaster) dates Ihone
    dow Mcalaster to 1614, giving an example of this switch. Since the
    submitter requested authenticity and allowed any changes, we have
    changed the given name to Ihone to meet his request. Black (p. 619
    s.n. Munro) dates the forms Manro to 1538 and Munroy to 1590. Effric,
    op. cit., dates Monro to 1541 and 1549. Given these variants, the
    submitted Munro seems reasonable for his desired time period.

James of Carinthia. Name and device. Bendy sinister Or and azure, a
fox gules and a wingless griffin argent combattant.

Jonathas Reinisch. Device change. Azure, on a mountain argent a fox's
head couped gules.

    His previous device, Azure, on a mountain argent a fox's head couped
    contourny gules, in dexter chief an escarbuncle Or, is released.

Jonet MacDuffie. Name.

Katerina von Wolfsberg. Name change from Katerina Sumer Quenstedt.

    Submitted as Katerina von Wolfenberg, the submitter requested
    authenticity for German language/culture and allowed any changes. No
    documentation was presented and none was found that Wolfen- is a
    period name element in a German place name. Brechenmacher
    (s.n. Wolfsberg) dates Wolfsberg to 1311. Therefore, we have changed
    the byname to von Wolfsberg to meet the submitter's request for
    authenticity.

    Her previous name, Katerina Sumer Quenstedt, is released.

Lauren{c,}o Affonso. Name and device. Or, two rose branches in saltire
each flowered to chief proper surmounted by a wolf's head couped close
facing to dexter base all between four anchors in cross sable.

    Submitted as Lauren{c,}o Affonso do Capeles, no documentation for
    this name was included with the submission--even the "Notes"
    section on the form was blank! The LoI gave documentation for the
    first two elements of the name, but none for the byname. As he
    allows major changes, we are dropping the undocumented element.

    The wolf's head is drawn as if it were couped close, except that the
    expected smooth couping line was replaced with a very small,
    "pinking-shear" indented line. This sort of treatment of a head
    neither has the smooth line of a period couped, or the prominent jags
    of a period erased. Without supporting documentation, such a depiction
    will not be considered acceptable period style after May 2002. The
    submitter's original blazon of couped (changed to erased in the LoI)
    has been restored, since this depiction is, arguably, closer to period
    couped than erased. However, please advise the submitter to draw the
    couping with a smooth line in the future.  A "high T-shirt
    neckline" (as if the wolf were wearing a high necked t-shirt,
    giving a smooth concave line at the neck) is one style of couping
    found in period, and is the closest period form to this depiction.

    See the cover letter for more information on couped and erased in
    general.

Lillian von Wolfsberg. Name.

    Submitted as Lillian von Wolfenberg, the submitter requested
    authenticity for German language/culture and allowed any changes. As
    we have no evidence that the name Lillian was used as a feminine given
    name in German, we were unable to make this name authentic. No
    documentation was presented and none was found that Wolfen- is a
    period name element in a German place name. Brechenmacher
    (s.n. Wolfsberg) dates Wolfsberg to 1311. Therefore, we have changed
    the byname to von Wolfsberg to partially comply with the submitter's
    request for authenticity.

    Mixing English and German in a single name is a weirdness.

Magnus balli Thorvaldsson. Device. Per saltire sable and vert, on a
plate engrailed a drakkar sailing to sinister sable.

Margaret Catteshull of Meriden. Device. Per bend gules and azure, a
bend Or between a cat sejant guardant dexter forepaw raised and two
needles crossed in saltire argent.

    This was pended from July 2001 for correction of tinctures.

Margareta vanden Velde. Device. Gules, three groups of three roundels
each two and one and a bordure engrailed Or.

    This was originally submitted with a blazon of "three sparks"
    rather than an explicit combination of roundels. However, the
    Pictorial Dictionary notes that the spark was only found in
    groups, rather than as an isolated charge. Brault's Early Blazon
    second edition bears out this interpretation. The singular noun
    estencele means either a "small mullet" or means "spark, i.e a
    cluster of three or four small dots". However, this latter use is
    referenced to the entry for estencel{e'}, which only discusses the
    strewn use of such sparks. The fact that sparks are only used in
    groups is also indicated in an article by H. Stanford London (Coat
    of Arms, vol. II, No. 11, July 1952, p. 111). Absent evidence for
    explicitly enumerated sparks in period armory, they will not be
    allowed.

Roana de Laci. Name.

    Good name!

Sorcha Lochlan. Device. Per pale sable and Or, a mullet of eight
points within a bordure engrailed counterchanged.

Stierbach, Barony of. Badge. (Fieldless) A bull rampant contourny
gules charged on the shoulder with an escutcheon argent.

Stierbach, Barony of. Badge. (Fieldless) In fess an axe conjoined to
another reversed and inverted argent, both entwined by a vine vert.

    The College and Wreath Staff had some difficulty identifying the axes
    in their unusual conjoined position.  After some discussion, we
    decided this was acceptably identifiable, but please advise the
    submitters to be particularly careful to draw the axes clearly.

Stierbach, Barony of. Badge. Per bend gules and argent, a compass rose
and a bull salient within a bordure embattled counterchanged.

    The bull was originally blazoned as springing. The term springing is,
    in the SCA, a synonym for salient used when blazoning deer and their
    close relatives, and should not be used for other animals.

Stierbach, Barony of. Badge. (Fieldless) A bull rampant argent charged
on the shoulder with a torteau.

Storvik, Barony of. Order name Order of the Faering.

    Listed on the LoI as Order of the F{ae}ring, the name was
    originally submitted as Order of the Faering and changed at
    kingdom to match the form found in a Danish dictionary. Faering is
    the standard English transliteration for F{ae}ring. As the group
    did not request authenticity, the transliterated form is
    acceptable, and we have returned the order name to that form.

Teige MacLennan the Tinker. Name and device. Or, a heart per pale
sable and gules and on a chief azure two hearts argent.

    Listed on the LoI as Teige mac Lennan the Tinker, the forms listed
    Teige MacLennan the Tinker. As the submitted form is registerable, we
    have returned it to that spelling. The name Teige was documented from
    online translations of the Annals of the Four Masters. Those
    translations were done in the 19th C and so name forms in them are not
    necessarily appropriate period Anglicized Irish forms. In this case,
    the form Teige is fine since C. L'Estrange Ewen, A History of Surnames
    of the British Isles, dates Teige oge ny Foorty of Dromore, yeoman to
    1603-4 (p. 210).

Torfin de Carric. Name change from Thorfinn of Dun Carraig (see
RETURNS for device).

    Good name!

    His previous name, Thorfinn of Dun Carraig, is released.

Tristan Alexander. Device change. Azure, a merman affronty reguardant
maintaining in the sinister hand a trident, in chief a pearled
coronet, all within a bordure argent.

    The submitter is a court baron and therefore entitled to a coronet on
    his device. His previous device, Azure, a merman affronty reguardant,
    maintaining in the sinister hand a trident, within a bordure argent,
    is released. He continues to have the right to bear the augmentation
    registered to him in February 1995.  The augmented form of his coat of
    arms will now be: Azure, a merman affronty reguardant maintaining in
    the sinister hand a trident, in chief a pearled coronet, all within a
    bordure argent, as an augmentation, in the merman's dexter hand a
    targe argent charged with an escutcheon of sable, a decrescent and a
    base indented of three points argent.

Tristan Alexander. Badge. Azure, a mertyger erect to sinister and a
bordure argent.

Ulric the Fox. Device. Per pale argent and sable, a fox's mask
counterchanged on a chief gules three crosses formy argent.

Willelm de Whytemersch. Name and device. Per bend sinister Or and
azure, a jester's cap between three Tau crosses counterchanged.

    Submitted as Willelm de Wytemarsh, the submitter requested
    authenticity for 14th to 15th C England and allowed any changes. The
    submitted spelling of the placename Wytemarsh combines the 13th C
    spelling Wyte- with the modern spelling -marsh. Reaney & Wilson
    (p. 486 s.n. Whitefield) dates Richard Whytefeld to 1396. Bardsley
    (p. 516 s.n. Marsh) dates Katerian del Mersch to 1379. We have changed
    the byname to a plausible 14th C spelling to comply with the
    submitter's request for authenticity.

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