[MR] Laurel Returns for April

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Wed Jun 6 19:46:51 PDT 2001


Greetings Atlantia from Lord Michael Batcok, Triton Principal Herald.

The following items were RETURNED by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms for futher 
work at her April meeting:

ATLANTIA

Astasia de Moncellis. Device. Quarterly argent and argent v{e^}tu
  ploy{e'} azure, in bend sinister two decrescents azure.

The device violates RfS XI.3, Marshalling. In particular it violates
  the clause in RfS XI.3.b:

         Such fields may only be used when no single portion of the
         field may appear to be an independent piece of armory. No
    section of the field may contain an ordinary that terminates
         at the edge of that section, or more than one charge unless
         those charges are part of a group over the whole
         field. Charged sections must all contain charges of the same
         type to avoid the appearance of being different from each
         other.

     While this case is not precisely one of the cases enumerated,
     there is no evidence of a v{e^}tu field being used on only part of
     the field; therefore the two v{e^}tu sections can only be
     independent pieces of armory. Reblazoning as Quarterly argent and
     azure, in bend sinister two lozenges ploy{e'} throughout each
     charged with a decrescent azure does not help, because the
     lozenges are both charged and throughout, so the quarters still
  appear to be independent armory.

Atlantia, Kingdom of. Badge for the Kings Guard. (Fieldless) A sealion
  maintaining a sword bendwise sinister Or.
     The consensus of the College is that the sword is not large enough
     to count as a co-primary. As a maintained charge its addition is
     worth no difference so the badge is in conflict with the badge for
     the Shire of Adamestor, A sea-lion Or maned sable. There is a CD
     for fieldlessness but nothing for changing the tincture of the
  mane of the lion nor for the addition of the sword.

Derdriu ingen Muiredaig. Device. Argent, a panther rampant guardant
  sable spotted of diverse tinctures incensed gules, on a chief purpure
  three moths close argent.
     The moths on the chief were not in a standard heraldic
     posture. While the posture in which moths are often found in
     nature, none of the College was able to devise a blazon to
     accurately describe it. Because armory must be blazonable, this
     must be returned.

Elvegast, Canton of. Badge. Argent, a bend sinister of five fusils
  conjoined gules.
     Conflict with Sarsif the Red, Argent, a bend sinister indented, a
     bordure gules. There is a CD for the removal of the bordure, but
     as a bend sinister of fusils is an artistic variant of indented,
     there is not a CD between it and a bend sinister indented.

Robert Pine. Device. Azure, two wasps combattant, a bordure argent.
     Long precedent has held that non-quadrupeds cannot be registered
     in positions such as rampant.  In particular, in May 1991, Laurel
     stated "Henceforth, we will not accept rampant birds."  In the
     same month, Laurel said, "given the College's feelings about birds
     in a rampant position it is unlikely that a rampant insect would
     be any more acceptable." Since that time, we have not registered
     insects in a rampant position, and see no reason to do so now.


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