[Archers] Marshal Nomenclature

[GEORGE]

Lord Mungo you are always thinking, I like that about you. Yes, please remember this for our next DEM and lets bring it up to them again. In the meantime if your local group has a web presence or Facebook presence there is no reason you cant be listed as the “TAM” for your local group with your contact info.

In service

Janyn



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From: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: April 22, 2019 at 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Archers] Marshal Nomenclature

Lord Janyn, and Friends;

Thank you all for your thoughts on this question. I hope this discussion was profitable, and I'm pleased to see that I wasn't the first to think about this. Perhaps our next DEM will find a way to address the question. From now on I will not use "Captain of Archers" or any other designator, until there is official action.

Nobody addressed the second point, and that was whether a star [*] or some other designator could be added in the Marshal List to help us find who is in charge for TA business purposes.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge🦆


On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 1:12 PM JAY NARDONE<jaynardone at comcast.net(mailto:jaynardone at comcast.net)>wrote:
> Lord Mungo, I held this discussion when I was DEM. It was one of those things that was brought to curia but never actually made it to curia along with the 3 or 4 other items I wanted to officially have changed. While I am not and have never been in favor of us just willy nilly just affording ourselves made up titles, I see your point. That is why I suggested that in all local groups the lead marshal should be called and named the "TAM." There are still groups within our kingdom today that do not have official TAMs identified.
>  
> I think it will become very confusing if all of a sudden we now have Archer General, Captain of the archers, Lieutenant of the archers, etc... There is no need for this and in my eyes it is pompous for a group that was never that way.
>  
> Just my 2 cents...
>  
> Master Janyn Fletcher
>  
> > On April 20, 2019 at 6:05 AM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford<mallardlodge1000 at gmail.com(mailto:mallardlodge1000 at gmail.com)>wrote:
> >  
> > Noble Friends of the Bow,
> >  
> > I would like to spark a discussion about what we as Target Archery Marshals who are in charge of a sub-group's archers call ourselves.
> >  
> > As I understand the way our title is stated as officers of the kingdom, we are simply called "[Name of subgroup] Target Archery Marshal". That applies to all the TA marshals of that group, so there is no way to tell the difference between the gentles who file the quarterly reports and "run the shop" from their subordinates. No problem when I was the only TA Marshal in Isenfir, but now we have six active TA marshals.
> >  
> > For a while I used the handle "Target Archery Marshal In Charge", but was told is an official designation only for a TA who is running an event, and that using it at the group level was incorrect.
> >  
> > Since then I have informally called myself "Captain of Archers" on correspondence, which seems to be an accurate description (see signature below). I know this might sound a bit haughty, but it is a useful differentiation, especially as I am sometimes the point-of-contact for inquiries from potential new members, outside groups that want an archery demo/speaker, etc.
> >  
> > I recognize that, if official, such a designation would need Kingdom approval. Maybe this is something upon which we could agree upon and ask TRMs for official recognition through our next DEM. Does anyone know if other kingdoms use such at title that could serve as a guide?
> >  
> > Another purely practical idea: If we need to do business with the TA Marshal of another group, it would be handy to know which TA to contact. Perhaps a star [*] or some other mark could be added to listings on the marshals' roster page to show who is in charge. This would be an easy programming fix, and completely separate from any question about titles.
> >  
> > Any other ideas? Is this a tempest in a teapot?
> >  
> > Yours Aye,
> >  
> > Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge🦆
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