[Archers] Marshal Nomenclature

[Garth Groff and Sally Sanford]

Lord Janyn, and Friends;

Thank you all for your thoughts on this question. I hope this discussion
was profitable, and I'm pleased to see that I wasn't the first to think
about this. Perhaps our next DEM will find a way to address the question.
>From now on I will not use "Captain of Archers" or any other designator,
until there is official action.

Nobody addressed the second point, and that was whether a star [*] or some
other designator could be added in the Marshal List to help us find who is
in charge for TA business purposes.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆


On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 1:12 PM JAY NARDONE <jaynardone at comcast.net> wrote:

> Lord Mungo, I held this discussion when I was DEM. It was one of those
> things that was brought to curia but never actually made it to curia along
> with the 3 or 4 other items I wanted to officially have changed. While I am
> not and have never been in favor of us just willy nilly just affording
> ourselves made up titles, I see your point. That is why I suggested that in
> all local groups the lead marshal should be called and named the "TAM."
> There are still groups within our kingdom today that do not have official
> TAMs identified.
>
> I think it will become very confusing if all of a sudden we now have
> Archer General, Captain of the archers, Lieutenant of the archers, etc...
> There is no need for this and in my eyes it is pompous for a group that was
> never that way.
>
> Just my 2 cents...
>
> Master Janyn Fletcher
>
> On April 20, 2019 at 6:05 AM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <
> mallardlodge1000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Noble Friends of the Bow,
>
> I would like to spark a discussion about what we as Target Archery
> Marshals who are in charge of a sub-group's archers call ourselves.
>
> As I understand the way our title is stated as officers of the kingdom, we
> are simply called "[Name of subgroup] Target Archery Marshal". That applies
> to all the TA marshals of that group, so there is no way to tell the
> difference between the gentles who file the quarterly reports and "run the
> shop" from their subordinates. No problem when I was the only TA Marshal in
> Isenfir, but now we have six active TA marshals.
>
> For a while I used the handle "Target Archery Marshal In Charge", but was
> told is an official designation only for a TA who is running an event, and
> that using it at the group level was incorrect.
>
> Since then I have informally called myself "Captain of Archers" on
> correspondence, which seems to be an accurate description (see signature
> below). I know this might sound a bit haughty, but it is a useful
> differentiation, especially as I am sometimes the point-of-contact for
> inquiries from potential new members, outside groups that want an archery
> demo/speaker, etc.
>
> I recognize that, if official, such a designation would need Kingdom
> approval. Maybe this is something upon which we could agree upon and ask
> TRMs for official recognition through our next DEM. Does anyone know if
> other kingdoms use such at title that could serve as a guide?
>
> Another purely practical idea: If we need to do business with the TA
> Marshal of another group, it would be handy to know which TA to contact.
> Perhaps a star [*] or some other mark could be added to listings on the
> marshals' roster page to show who is in charge. This would be an easy
> programming fix, and completely separate from any question about titles.
>
> Any other ideas? Is this a tempest in a teapot?
>
> Yours Aye,
>
> Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆
> Captain of Archers, Shire of Isenfir
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