[Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 181, Issue 9

Michael michaelstuart at gmail.com
Sat Oct 27 08:14:59 PDT 2018


Makes sense to me. Plus bamboo darts (for example) should be less expensive
than darts made from modern materials would be.

in service,

Eirik Gralokkr

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>    1. Re: Atlatl (neacalban1 at aol.com)
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> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 03:41:49 +0000 (UTC)
> From: <neacalban1 at aol.com>
> To: ladygreenleafe at gmail.com, vaarstj at hotmail.com
> Cc: seamusmcray at gmail.com, pjdarby at verizon.net,
>         archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlatl
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>  Makes sense to me.
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> Naran
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lorelei Elkins <ladygreenleafe at gmail.com>
> To: jeff <vaarstj at hotmail.com>
> Cc: JAMES FRAILEY <seamusmcray at gmail.com>; Peter Darby <
> pjdarby at verizon.net>; Archers <archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2018 4:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlatl
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> I too am in agreement.
> Lorelei
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 1:40 PM jeff <vaarstj at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Seamus,
> I agree with your assessment.? Wooden/bamboo darts with feathers.? A
> composite atlatl equates to a composite bow.? As for straightening and
> throwing, I've seen little difference between straight and crooked darts.?
> Points extend the life of the dart, but they'll stick without them.
> GhijskijnFrom: Archers <archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> on
> behalf of JAMES FRAILEY <seamusmcray at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 2:51 PM
> To: Archers; <pjdarby at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Archers] Atlatl?Greetings Atlantian Archers. It has come to my
> attention that there are very little guidelines about Atlatl and equipment
> documented. Also I see that there is some marketing of Atlatl equipment
> from such sources as 3-River Archery. (
> https://www.3riversarchery.com/carbon-express-atlatl-kit.html)
> My opinion is I am OK with modern material for Atlatls but I am not OK
> with modern materials such as carbon darts. I view this the same way we
> allow modern material for bows and not arrows. My suggestion below for our
> Target Archery Handbook.
> "Atlatl? Inspection of equipment will in general be the same as for
> archery equipment.? Atlatls and darts should be constructed to resemble
> materials and equipment that existed in-period. Natural materials like wood
> and bamboo are recommended. In the Kingdom of Atlantia, darts cannot be
> used that are made of carbon fiber or any other modern materials.? Darts
> should be reasonably straight with fletches of feathers, paper, or leather.
> Points are optional, but if used must be securely fastened to the dart.?
> The atlatl itself will be smooth and free of cracks, warps, and bends so as
> not to endanger the user or others."
> So, since I am not King, Queen or the Earl Marshal I am not the last say
> in this. I welcome all reasonable dialog in regards to crafting guidelines.
> Please contribute especially those with expertise with this equipment.peter
> I look forward to some dialog over this matter. Thank you.
>
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> In service,?
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> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 09:13:54 -0400
> From: thaduck <thaduck at earthlink.net>
> To: neacalban1 at aol.com, ladygreenleafe at gmail.com, vaarstj at hotmail.com
> Cc: seamusmcray at gmail.com, pjdarby at verizon.net,
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> Agree I do?
> Ivarr
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> -------- Original message --------From: neacalban1 at aol.com Date:
> 10/26/18  11:41 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: ladygreenleafe at gmail.com,
> vaarstj at hotmail.com Cc: seamusmcray at gmail.com, pjdarby at verizon.net,
> archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlatl
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> Naran
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Lorelei Elkins <ladygreenleafe at gmail.com>
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> To: jeff <vaarstj at hotmail.com>
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> Cc: JAMES FRAILEY <seamusmcray at gmail.com>; Peter Darby <
> pjdarby at verizon.net>; Archers <archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
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> Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2018 4:01 pm
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> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlatl
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> I too am in agreement.
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> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 1:40 PM jeff <vaarstj at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I agree with your assessment.? Wooden/bamboo darts with feathers.? A
> composite atlatl equates to a composite bow.? As for straightening and
> throwing, I've seen little difference between straight and crooked darts.?
> Points extend the life of the dart, but they'll
>  stick without them.
>
>
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> Ghijskijn
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> From: Archers <archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> on behalf of
> JAMES FRAILEY <seamusmcray at gmail.com>
>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 2:51 PM
>
> To: Archers; <pjdarby at verizon.net>
>
> Subject: [Archers] Atlatl
>
> ?
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> Greetings Atlantian Archers. It has come to my attention that there are
> very little guidelines about Atlatl and equipment documented. Also I see
> that there is some marketing of Atlatl equipment from such sources as
> 3-River Archery. (
> https://www.3riversarchery.com/carbon-express-atlatl-kit.html)
>
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>
> My opinion is I am OK with modern material for Atlatls but I am not OK
> with modern materials such as carbon darts. I view this the same way we
> allow modern material for bows and not arrows. My suggestion below for our
> Target Archery Handbook.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Atlatl
>
>
> ? Inspection of equipment will in general be the same as for archery
> equipment.
>
>
>
> ? Atlatls and darts should be constructed to resemble materials and
> equipment that existed in-period. Natural materials like wood and bamboo
> are recommended. In the Kingdom of Atlantia, darts cannot be used that are
> made of carbon fiber or any other modern
>  materials.
>
>
>
> ? Darts should be reasonably straight with fletches of feathers, paper, or
> leather. Points are optional, but if used must be securely fastened to the
> dart.
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>
> ? The atlatl itself will be smooth and free of cracks, warps, and bends so
> as not to endanger the user or others."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So, since I am not King, Queen or the Earl Marshal I am not the last say
> in this. I welcome all reasonable dialog in regards to crafting guidelines.
> Please contribute especially those with expertise with this equipment.peter
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> I look forward to some dialog over this matter. Thank you.
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