[Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 139, Issue 17

Fri May 1 06:55:20 PDT 2015

I love you guys!

Saphir

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:35 AM, John Atkins <cogworks at triad.rr.com> wrote:

> Colum,
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> You ruin all the fun.  J
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> *From:* Archers [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] *On
> Behalf Of *pjdarby at verizon.net
> *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2015 8:46 AM
> *To:* archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 139, Issue 17
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> The line should be run with a bottom line of safety.  The line marshal can
> and should overrule any archer on the line that wants to depart from the
> normal shooting if in their opinion the departure would degrade the safety
> of the line.  So if I had good archers who wanted to safely play at their
> skill level but would be above the skill level of other archers and/or
> beginners on the line. I would say they could not do it.  But at Crecy
> the off beat shooting was done be experienced archers and no archers were
> involved who might lessen the safety factor.  Moving the line could be
> looked at as maintaining safety so that everyone knew they were now
> shooting at the farther distance.  However through it all the standard line
> commands should be maintained, so the marshal should say "Archers may
> retrieve their arrows." not " Lets go get them.".
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> How's that for a serious answer to a not as serious question, but
> nevertheless a good question.
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> Colum
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> On 04/30/15, archers-request at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org wrote:
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> 1. Re: Line commands. (John Atkins)
> 2. Re: Line commands. (jaynardone at comcast.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 17:38:52 -0400
> From: "John Atkins" cogworks at triad.rr.com>
> To: <jaynardone at comcast.net>, <pjdarby at verizon.net>
> Cc: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Line commands.
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> WOW! Let?s harken back to last year?s Crecy. Lorelei had an MIT running
> the line. ?The archers?, names withheld to protect the guilty, started
> doing things like moving the shooting line. The MIT told them they had to
> shoot from the line. The archers didn?t like that so they picked up the
> line and moved it back. They shot by laying on their backs, holding the bow
> in their feet, and pulling the string with two hands. The poor MIT was
> seriously perplexed. So does this mean our DEM is going to ruin the fun of
> ?those archers??
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> Cog who likes to stir the pot just to see what?s on the bottom.
> hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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> From: Archers [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> <archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>] On Behalf Of jaynardone@
> comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:50 PM
> To: pjdarby at verizon.net
> Cc: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Line commands.
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> Baron Colum, point well taken and this should be a notice to us all as
> marshals that we need to "practice what we teach!" We are all out there to
> have fun but we should be running our practices just like formal events
> from a safety and procedure perspective. Some of our practices have large
> enough numbers to really be a mini event so in these cases I would hope
> the MIC is conducting full inspections and using stickers, etc if the
> numbers are over our rule limit.
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> Was not a finger pointing, just something I noticed and I would like us
> all to take a minute to set the example for our new marshals and marshals
> in training. If we get rid of the bad habits up front it is much more
> productive for us all.
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> Thanks to you all for what you do!
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> In service,
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> Janyn
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> From: pjdarby at verizon.net
> To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 2:20:20 PM
> Subject: [Archers] Line commands.
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> I know that I go over the commands in class, but that doesn't mean an MIT
> of mine might be guilty of not using standard commands. I have noticed that
> at practices where we have the usual crowd and know everyone we
> "experienced" marshals will not always use the standard commands. I can
> easily see an MIT picking up on this and, under the auspices of "How you
> practice is how you perform", not using proper terminology. If all marshals
> make an effort to ensure standard commands are used, we may see the MIT's
> following our example rather than our classroom instructions. I know I will.
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> In service
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> Colum
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 18:27:11 +0000 (UTC)
> From: <mailto:jaynardone at comcast.net <jaynardone at comcast.net>> jaynardone@
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> To: archers <archers at seahorse. <mailto:archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
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> Subject: [Archers] Attn: Teaching Marshals
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> Good afternoon everyone, I wanted to get the word out to all of our
> teaching marshals. I have noticed this year that on a few occasions now MiT'
> s I have personally watched have not been properly executing in how to
> properly call the line, handle archers on the line or potential hazard
> avoidance. I am not finger pointing at our teaching marshals in any way but
> I want to stress to each of you the importance of making sure those MiT's
> understand their responsibilities and how to properly use the standard set
> of line calls; "archers to the line", "Archers ready?", "loose, hold"
> etc....
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> I have seen MiTs using go, stop, okay, alright, etc and it confuses
> everyone on the line. Also the safety check "CLEAR DOWN RANGE?" is just
> that. It is a shout down range to potential safety issues, not just for the
> people on the line. The new marshals need to assure they are projecting
> downrange as well in case there is anyone down there...
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> Please in your classes make sure you stress the safety aspects and the
> proper way to do things. I know they are learning and we were all new at
> some point, hell Im still a newbie, or so Im told :P
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> It is our job to assure they learn properly.
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> In Service,
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> Janyn
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