[Archers] Atl Atl Rules

[Jonathas]

I haven't tried it enough to weigh in on the speed aspect, so I'll leave
that to those who have done it a bit more.  Same with the number of throws
per end.  Personally 3 seemed low to me too, but that is what I was told
the Atlatl tradition was so I went with it.

I saw the larger target but smaller rings as the best of both worlds,
beginners get to score and experts still get to be competitive against each
other.

However, I'm generally against the idea of repeating something just for the
sake of repeating, or in this case adding a end so the Atlatl Royal Round
(for ease of typing can we just call this thing the ARR??) can match up
with the regular Royal Round.

Most importantly, Atlatl falls under the Archery Marshallete only due to
the ranges and ballistics in play are similar, but really it is its own
separate sport, lets not try to force archery traditions onto the atlatl.
If it ends up with 4 ends of 6 throws, ok, but if it doesn't that is ok
too. No point in forcing  it to fit the archery mold.


Jonathas

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Siegfried <siegfried at crossbows.biz> wrote:

> On 12/10/12 9:35 AM, Jonathas wrote:
> >  given it would be just as easy to order a 80cm or a 120cm FITA
> > target.  As a beginner myself but able to see where the skill can go,
> > I'd be inclined to recommend using the 120cm, but count all ten rings,
> > and throw from 10, 20, and 30 yards.  This would be big enough that at
> > the closer ranges the new comers would certainly get points, and likely
> > get a few points at 30.  Yet by using all 10 rings, still competitive as
> > the skills get better.
>
> As stated, I'm behind the move to 120cm target :)   The 10 rings idea is
> intriguing.   It does allow for a more competitive nature at the higher
> end.  AND if we kept it at only 3 throws, would make the scoring match up.
>
> Though I still think AtlAtl throwers wanna do more than 3 :)  More
> throwing == BETTER!
>
> > If you had 3 throws from each range, 9 throws total, the perfect score
> > would be 90.  If each of the current 6 Atlatl ranks where worth 15
> > points it would come out to a perfect 90 as well.
>
> Honest Q:  Why not also keep the speed round into play?   I don't see
> any reason why an AtlAtl couldn't speed like the rest of them.   There's
> no more intrinsic danger of an AtlAtl person fumbling their attempt to
> throw ... than an archer who panics and does "bad things"(tm) during a
> speed round.
>
> Ideas:   6 darts, regular 5 spot scoring, speed round == Standard Royal
> Round scoring & ranks.  Theoretical max (if you can throw 6 in a speed)
> is 120.
>
> Alternative:  If people just really don't like the idea of speed.   5
> darts, 10 spot scoring, 3 ends (And the atlatl's just take an arm break
> during the speed round I guess).  150 absolute max, can again use
> standard Atlantian rankings at 20 per step.
>
> AltAltternative:  Again if people just don't like the idea of speed.
> You could always have the atl-atl round include TWO ends at the closest
> distance.  (be that 20 or 10).  With the idea being that they are just
> throwing again during the other archer's speed rounds.
>
> Lots-o-thoughts.
>
> Siegfried
>
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