[Archers] Atl Atl Rules

[Siegfried]

Well, and taking Dealla's feedback on issues with the speed ...

And the fact that typically atlatl darts are sold in packs of 3 ...

Perhaps the idea of doing your 10spot scoring, on 3 ends at 10/20/30 ...
using *5* darts each end ... would work well.

As stated it would give a theoretical max of 150 (similar to a Lochlain
of AtlAtl *grin*), and allow for the standard scoring markers to be used
at 20/increments, so that people don't need to memorize a second one :)

And that way, someone who buys two packs of AtlAtl darts, owns 6 ... and
has a spare to break before they suddenly can't score again.

Like Dealla said.  Waiting out the speed round, is at least the shortest
one to wait :)

Siegfried


On 12/10/12 10:27 AM, Jonathas wrote:
> I haven't tried it enough to weigh in on the speed aspect, so I'll leave
> that to those who have done it a bit more.  Same with the number of
> throws per end.  Personally 3 seemed low to me too, but that is what I
> was told the Atlatl tradition was so I went with it.
> 
> I saw the larger target but smaller rings as the best of both worlds,
> beginners get to score and experts still get to be competitive against
> each other. 
> 
> However, I'm generally against the idea of repeating something just for
> the sake of repeating, or in this case adding a end so the Atlatl Royal
> Round (for ease of typing can we just call this thing the ARR??) can
> match up with the regular Royal Round. 
> 
> Most importantly, Atlatl falls under the Archery Marshallete only due to
> the ranges and ballistics in play are similar, but really it is its own
> separate sport, lets not try to force archery traditions onto the
> atlatl.  If it ends up with 4 ends of 6 throws, ok, but if it doesn't
> that is ok too. No point in forcing  it to fit the archery mold.
> 
> 
> Jonathas
> 
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Siegfried <siegfried at crossbows.biz
> <mailto:siegfried at crossbows.biz>> wrote:
> 
>     On 12/10/12 9:35 AM, Jonathas wrote:
>     >  given it would be just as easy to order a 80cm or a 120cm FITA
>     > target.  As a beginner myself but able to see where the skill can go,
>     > I'd be inclined to recommend using the 120cm, but count all ten rings,
>     > and throw from 10, 20, and 30 yards.  This would be big enough that at
>     > the closer ranges the new comers would certainly get points, and
>     likely
>     > get a few points at 30.  Yet by using all 10 rings, still
>     competitive as
>     > the skills get better.
> 
>     As stated, I'm behind the move to 120cm target :)   The 10 rings idea is
>     intriguing.   It does allow for a more competitive nature at the higher
>     end.  AND if we kept it at only 3 throws, would make the scoring
>     match up.
> 
>     Though I still think AtlAtl throwers wanna do more than 3 :)  More
>     throwing == BETTER!
> 
>     > If you had 3 throws from each range, 9 throws total, the perfect score
>     > would be 90.  If each of the current 6 Atlatl ranks where worth 15
>     > points it would come out to a perfect 90 as well.
> 
>     Honest Q:  Why not also keep the speed round into play?   I don't see
>     any reason why an AtlAtl couldn't speed like the rest of them.   There's
>     no more intrinsic danger of an AtlAtl person fumbling their attempt to
>     throw ... than an archer who panics and does "bad things"(tm) during a
>     speed round.
> 
>     Ideas:   6 darts, regular 5 spot scoring, speed round == Standard Royal
>     Round scoring & ranks.  Theoretical max (if you can throw 6 in a speed)
>     is 120.
> 
>     Alternative:  If people just really don't like the idea of speed.   5
>     darts, 10 spot scoring, 3 ends (And the atlatl's just take an arm break
>     during the speed round I guess).  150 absolute max, can again use
>     standard Atlantian rankings at 20 per step.
> 
>     AltAltternative:  Again if people just don't like the idea of speed.
>     You could always have the atl-atl round include TWO ends at the closest
>     distance.  (be that 20 or 10).  With the idea being that they are just
>     throwing again during the other archer's speed rounds.
> 
>     Lots-o-thoughts.
> 
>     Siegfried
> 
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