[Archers] Help planning for Pennsic

Thu Oct 20 06:27:58 PDT 2011

Mungo ... a few things to clarify for you, in terms of the Pennsic
Schedule.  For it seems that you have perhaps fallen prey to some
misconceptions that others have in the past as well.

1) While the first day of Pennsic is listed as a Friday, note that you
can't actually get 'onsite' on Friday.  The first Friday is a
'pre-land-grab' day.  Anyone who arrives is assumed to be helping with
landgrab.  They must setup temporary camp on the battlefield that night
(many just sleep in their cars), or head off to a hotel.

2) The first Saturday, is landgrab day.  That morning all the land
agents run around like chickens, getting all the paperwork filled out.
Once they've done so, they get special passes that let people exit the
battlefield and drive onto site to start setting up.
   NOTE:  If you aren't specifically planning on helping a particular
camp with their landgrab & Saturday morning setup.  Then you are best
advised to not arrive until Saturday afternoon, at the earliest.  As you
won't be allowed onsite / off the battlefield, without the 'special
pass' you can get from a land agent, who only gets so many of them anyway.

3) That Saturday & Sunday, tends to be spent with everyone setting up
camp all day long.   Hence why the archery range doesn't tend to get
setup until Monday.  Too many pavilions, camp showers, sumps, kitchens,
etc to be put together first.

4) Also, There will be no shopping on that Saturday or Sunday.  Other
than a few food merchants, no other merchants will open until possible
Monday.  And honestly until around Friday, not nearly all of them will
be open.  By that mid-friday, all the merchants will have moved in, and
things will be open

5) In general, the entire 1st week is spent with few classes, small
amounts of shopping, and lots of hanging around resting.   The real
'tons of stuff happening' doesn't take place until the following
Fri/Sat, and the 2nd week.

Siegfried

On 10/20/11 8:58 AM, Garth Groff wrote:
> M'Lord Christophe,
> 
> Thank you for your thoughts. This year (at least), Pennsic will open on
> Friday. I would be pleased to assist with setting up the range on
> Monday, or earlier if they choose to start sooner. But what would I do
> on Saturday? That's for me to figure out, I guess. I may drive up on
> Saturday, and spend Sunday shopping, shopping, shopping.
> 
> Yes, I was aware that the range had moved. Your description probably
> makes sense to someone who has been there, but I am going to need a map.
> That should be no problem, since our seneschal is big on promoting
> Pennsic. IIRC, Pennsic 37 was the last time the range was on the
> mountain. When I was there, right out on the shooting range a number of
> holes (or maybe just soft spots) were marked off with caution tape.
> 
> Anyone else who has ideas or advice, please feel free to contribute.
> 
> Yours Aye,
> 
> 
> Mungo
> 
> On 10/20/2011 8:43 AM, John Atkins wrote:
>> Mungo,
>> Each year things are a bit different on the archery range at Pennsic.
>> This in large part is due to the running of the range being handed back
>> and forth between the two principal warring kingdoms and their
>> respective archer generals (that's the title Lorelei wants instead of
>> Archery DEM).  But typically Monday of the first week is range set up.
>> Often they plan two days for this activity, Monday and Tuesday, but so
>> many folks help out that it gets done in one day.  Tuesday the range is
>> open for shooting for marshals and those who assisted with range set up.
>> The rest of the week the range is open for open shooting.  In the past
>> the war point has started on the middle weekend and continues through
>> Friday of the second week.  Last year the war point was shot on only two
>> days during the second week.  Some years the populace gets to shoot the
>> war point twice, some years only once.  The Masters Shoot is usually
>> held on Monday of the second week with try outs conducted late in the
>> day of the middle weekend days, Sat and Sun.  Last year Atlantia did an
>> outstanding job of showing the Known World how to put on a fun populace
>> novelty shoot.  That was conducted on Sunday of the middle weekend.  As
>> the archer generals for both the East and Mid changed over last year
>> with those positions now staffed by individuals with some new ideas and
>> open to other ideas (not that their predecessors weren't) that the
>> novelty shoot will be repeated.  So typically the first week is open
>> shooting with an occasional novelty, prize or fund raiser shoot
>> conducted by either an individual or a small group.
>>
>> As it's been a few Pennsics since you've been you also need to know that
>> the archery range has moved.  It is no longer on top of Mount Eislin.
>> Standing on the battle field facing the castle, the range is now way off
>> to the left beyond what is now camping and used to be parking on the
>> other side of the trees.  The joke, or not, is that you follow the road
>> around the old parking lot, continue to where there is parking, then
>> continue some more.  Ultimately you come to a fork in the road.  Go
>> right.  Just after you pass the sign welcoming you to Ohio you're almost
>> there!  You may ask why.  Well as the range reporter for the Pennsic
>> Independent the story was that Mount Eislin is actually hollow.  There
>> is an old abandoned coal mine under the hill and the Coopers were afraid
>> of cave ins.  OK, I could buy that, sorta.  But now the heavies have
>> their woods battle in the woods behind the old range.  Stupid me but I
>> think I would weigh less carrying a bow and 18 arrows than I would
>> carrying a rattan sword, shield and garbed in about 80 pounds of armor.
>> And when you consider the average archer weighs about 175 and the
>> average heavy fighter, without armor, weighs about 250, well the logic
>> escapes me............
>>
>> cog
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>> [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Garth
>> Groff
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:23 AM
>> To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>> Subject: [Archers] Help planning for Pennsic
>>
>>
>> Noble friends of the bow,
>>
>> It looks like I will finally be able to attend Pennsic again this year
>> (last time was #37). I expect to be there during the first week. Since I
>>
>> will be staying in a nearby motel (I don't camp), early reservations are
>>
>> a must and I need to start planning now.
>>
>> Obviously there is no schedule for archery activities yet, but based on
>> what happened this year could some of you please make recommendations of
>>
>> what to expect? I hope to make myself available for marshal duties,
>> special shoots, and general fun on the range. In addition, I am hoping
>> to teach one or two classes, possibly one an archery-themed class.
>>
>> Yours Aye,
>>
>>
>> Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir TA Marshal
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