[Archers] Legality of 3Rivers large bodkins

loreleielkins at aol.com loreleielkins at aol.com
Tue Mar 15 10:05:50 PDT 2011


My mistake Lord Mungo.  I read your message too quickly, I apologize. 


 I know the points you are talking about and they do indeed damage the targets.  This might be one of those, "at the discretion of the MiC", since it is more than likely the MiC's targets which are being shot up.  While I agree that they are nice for the period look, I wouldn't encourage their use, just because they can potentially cause so much damage.  Now if we had some nice period targets to shoot at.....


Anyone else have thoughts on this?


Lorelei





-----Original Message-----
From: Garth G. Groff <ggg9y at virginia.edu>
To: Archers <Archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 8:15 am
Subject: Re: [Archers] Legality of 3Rivers large bodkins


              Lady Lorelei and friends,
    
    But these are not broadheads, just big bodkins, actually weighing    about 180 grains and about 3/8" across. Some archers might think    they are legal because they AREN'T broadheads. If somebody shows up    with these on our range, I am going to take a literal interpretation    of the Society rule: "No broadheads or tips that cause excessive    damage to the targets shall be used ...."  3Rivers also sells a    smaller version at about 140 grains which I haven't measured. I    think the damage potential would be similar.
    
    If anyone just has to shoot traditional arrows, they can still use    the 125-grain Ace faux medieval points or the equivalent that    3Rivers and some English vendors offer (so-called "mod-bods"). These    have always been legal in Atlantia, AFAIK. I can't see why anybody    would want to shoot such heavy points with our light target bows    anyway. Their arrows would drop like a stone.
    
    Too bad in a way, because those big bodkins are really cool points.    I have them on my 3/8" living history arrows, but those shafts are    only for display and looking cool in my quiver at demonstrations.
    
    Kind regards,
    
    
    Lord Mungo, Shire of Isenfir TA Marshal
    
    
    
    
    
    On 3/15/2011 11:48 AM, loreleielkins at aol.com wrote:    
Greetings!  Yes, you          nailed it.  Target points should be used on archery targets.           Target backs can be expensive.  Broadheads are meant to          penetrate flesh, not foam.  :-)        

        
        

          
          
          
          
-----Original              Message-----
            From:              Garth G. Groff <ggg9y at virginia.edu>
            To:              Archers <Archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
            Sent:              Tue, Mar 15, 2011 7:45 am
            Subject:              [Archers] Legality of 3Rivers large bodkins
            
            
              
Noble friends of the bow,Lorelei

The question was raised in my recent TA Marshal class about the legality 
of the 3Rivers large bodkins. These are very large, and look like they 
might do a lot of damage to a target. Does anyone have any views on 
these, vis-vis the Society rule against broadheads because of their 
potential to rip up a target?

Kind regards,


Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir Target Archery Marshal
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