[Archers] Congratulations!

[Craig]

I don't think we need a handbook, per se, but I think having a simple 
pdf file, 1 page, that explains what the requirements are for a safe 
archery range, would be handy to have.  It can not only be made 
availible on the Kingdom archery website, but when someone is asked to 
be the marshal in charge, they can send it to the autocrat, saying " 
Here's the minimum area that we are required to have for archery to 
occur.  That way, the autocrat has the information ahead of time as to 
what is needed, and they can arrange to fit it in their plan for the 
event site.  It won't replace the need for the archery marshal to 
actually visit the site or be familiar with it, but it's a good starting 
point.
I think the problem, based on what I've read, is simply that many 
autocrats aren't familiar with what is needed.  A simple 1 page 
explanation with diagram will give them the basic idea.
When the new rules took place, someone came out with a good diagram 
explanation of the new rules.  I printed that out and keep it in my 
marshal handbook so I've got it as a handy reference.  Building on that 
would be relatively simple and painless.  Doing a formal sheet that has 
the approval of the DEM-Archery would ensure that we are all giving out 
the correct information.

We need to educate the autocrats, as well as the rest of the populace.

-Cian

On 9/26/2010 3:32 PM, Wayne Himes wrote:
> I'd say make it a bit more generic.   More of a handbook with a check-off list.
>
> By making easier for the autocrat to do their job by giving them a tool that helps keep them from overlooking things that need done and understanding what and why the MIT's and others need to do their job.
>
> As well as a lists of thinks to do and possible pitfalls.
>
> Maybe we can find something to start with and take it from there then pass it around for in put from others?
>
> (Note that at this point I don't have a warrant.)
>
> Chon
>
> morgul at sc.rr.com wrote:
>
>> Just a thought, can we come up with a simple handout that can be sent to autocrats explaining the basics of archery range setup?  Nothing fancy or in-depth, but enough to at least famiarize them with the safety requirement so they understand what the archery marshall is talking about.
>>
>> -Cian
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Siegfried<siegfried at crossbows.biz>
>> Sender: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:04:09
>> To:<archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Archers] Congratulations!
>>
>> Personally, I disagree with this concept.  It's no different than any
>> other 'management' position in modern life, and no different than other
>> such positions in the SCA (such as Knight Marshal, who oversees all
>> Martial Activity, even if they are only a marshal in one aspect).
>>
>> Only a warranted TA Marshal can truly understand ALL the safety concerns
>> required with TA.  Some with Heavy, Combat ARchery, Siege, Rapier,
>> Equestrian, etc.
>>
>> Requiring an autocrat to 'deeply' understand all that, is paramont upon
>> requiring an autocrat to hold every possible marshallate position.
>>
>> As said information changes on a regular basis/etc.
>>
>> Therefore, and autocrat simply needs informed, and made aware, that they
>> need to rely upon, and trust, the words of their 'safety officers', IE,
>> the marshals.  To lean upon them, to take their words/suggestions and
>> understand them.
>>
>> And to understand that if they say 'no', they mean 'no' :)
>>
>> Siegfried
>>
>>
>> On 9/26/10 2:44 PM, John Atkins wrote:
>>> Having read the original, Janyn and Siegfried's responses to this I
>>> hessitate to make a suggestion, but let's at least think it over a bit.
>>> To become a warranted marshal of any activity in the SCA, archery,
>>> heavy, light, equestrian, the individual must attend a class and be a
>>> MIT for some events, number depends upon activity, before they are
>>> issued a warrant.  Simply stated, they are a CERTIFIED marshal of that
>>> activity.  This also applies to receiving a warrant for exchequer and
>>> some other offices.  However, and to the best of my knowledge, to be an
>>> autocrat one need only suffer from helium hand, i.e. volunteer.  Now I
>>> am NOT a big fan for over regulating anything, I firmly believe good
>>> common sense often trumps regulations, however, it is often prooved over
>>> and over that common sense is NOT common.  Thus is it not time to
>>> require anyone desiring to be an autocrat to pass through the same type
>>> of process an exchequer or marshal has to pass through?  Archery range
>>> size and safety zones are only one of many things an autocrat must take
>>> into cosideration in running a good, safe event.  To take this out of
>>> the realm of archery, does an autocrat know that they must purchase
>>> additional insurance if equestrian is involved?  Do they double check
>>> the equestrian field for holes in which a horse could stumble and
>>> possibly break a leg?  And what about equestrian archery?  Now there's a
>>> REAL headache in the waiting!  If we realize that the autocrat of an
>>> event is ultimately and legally responsible for what happens at that
>>> event do they not assume the same degree of "exposure" that all marshals
>>> and exchequers experience?  If Atlantia had an autocrat warranting
>>> process we could easily include safety requirements for all our activities.
>>>
>>> cog
>>>
>>>
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