[Archers] I'd like to point out.....

[Jay Nardone]

COG, right on the money again, can't say I disagree!

 

From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of John Atkins
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:38 PM
To: 'Janyn Fletcher'; 'Garth G. Groff'; Archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....

 

All on this list, this thread brings up old thoughts and some hard feelings
for me.  However, without getting into embarassing details let me just say
that from my point of view the solution to this entire issue is QUALITY OF
MARSHAL.  We have had situations in the past that resulted in either
dangerous situations, stupid rules, or embarassment for the archery
community due, again in my opinion, to bad marshalling.  If Atlantian
archery marshals are of quality and fully understand that being an event TA
MIC means you are the SAFETY OFFICER and not God for a Day, then these
situations would not come up.  Good marshals contact the event autocrat
BEFORE the event to discuss archery needs.  Kaytarzyna says she has driven
hours to investigate a new to her site.  That's the type of quality
marshalling I'm referring to.  Setting targets in areas without
consideration of the overshoot zones is not quality marshalling.  No matter
how many rules we write we will NEVER be able to write a rule to prevent
stupid or poor quality.

 

cog with some very strong opinions on this
subject.................................................

-----Original Message-----
From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Janyn
Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:55 PM
To: 'Garth G. Groff'; Archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....

Lord Mungo, as much as I agree with you I can say that is not the case, at
least today in Atlantia. The incidents I keep referring to as evidence
occurred because of two factors, 1. Autocrat "shoe-horned" archery into
places it was unsafe and should have not been. 2. The MIC, even though I
know they meant well did not understand the safety rules and even made a
comment to me when I challenged the range setup that, "The Baron said it was
alright." One ended up alright after we adjusted the range to be safe, the
other someone almost got shot. If I had my way I would have pulled those
warrant's immediately and asked that those two marshall's have someone
assigned to them to help them get up to speed. Both are still current
marshal's in Atlantia. 

 

Might sound harsh but I don't ever want to be the one that almost shot
someone because of any excuse!

 

Janyn

 

From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Garth G.
Groff
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:36 AM
To: Archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....

 

Lady Kaytarzyna,

Are you suggesting that at a tournament we marshals, as participating
archers, should refuse to shoot? Absolutely! But even more than that, the
marshal-in-charge MUST refuse to set up and open a range on a space that
does not meet kingdom safety standards. Period. Not to do so would endanger
the MIC's warrant, and in case of an accident, would open the Kingdom (not
to mention the MIC) up to all sorts of Society sanctions and possible legal
troubles.

Closing the range would undoubtedly cause a lot of hard feelings, a blizzard
of emails, probably not be taken seriously by the powers that be (outside of
the archery community), and possibly cause archery to be excluded at that
event in the future, but it is the only possible course of action. 

Kind regards,


Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir Target Archery Marshal

On 9/16/2010 9:17 AM, Katherine Hawkins wrote: 

I agree that the TA Marshall in Charge needs to communicate with the
Autocrat as to the needs for a  suitable site for archery.  I think one of
the biggest problems is that people like to "stretch" the rule in order to
be able to accommodate a shoot.  Let's face it archery on site means more
money.  I think each of us as Atlantia Marshalls should refuse to shoot a
range that is not suitable and ask for a refund.
 

Best regards, 

Katarzyna

 

Lady Katarzyna Witkowska

 

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