[Archers] I'd like to point out.....

[John Atkins]

All on this list, this thread brings up old thoughts and some hard
feelings for me.  However, without getting into embarassing details let
me just say that from my point of view the solution to this entire issue
is QUALITY OF MARSHAL.  We have had situations in the past that resulted
in either dangerous situations, stupid rules, or embarassment for the
archery community due, again in my opinion, to bad marshalling.  If
Atlantian archery marshals are of quality and fully understand that
being an event TA MIC means you are the SAFETY OFFICER and not God for a
Day, then these situations would not come up.  Good marshals contact the
event autocrat BEFORE the event to discuss archery needs.  Kaytarzyna
says she has driven hours to investigate a new to her site.  That's the
type of quality marshalling I'm referring to.  Setting targets in areas
without consideration of the overshoot zones is not quality marshalling.
No matter how many rules we write we will NEVER be able to write a rule
to prevent stupid or poor quality.
 
cog with some very strong opinions on this
subject.................................................

-----Original Message-----
From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Janyn
Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:55 PM
To: 'Garth G. Groff'; Archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....



Lord Mungo, as much as I agree with you I can say that is not the case,
at least today in Atlantia. The incidents I keep referring to as
evidence occurred because of two factors, 1. Autocrat "shoe-horned"
archery into places it was unsafe and should have not been. 2. The MIC,
even though I know they meant well did not understand the safety rules
and even made a comment to me when I challenged the range setup that,
"The Baron said it was alright." One ended up alright after we adjusted
the range to be safe, the other someone almost got shot. If I had my way
I would have pulled those warrant's immediately and asked that those two
marshall's have someone assigned to them to help them get up to speed.
Both are still current marshal's in Atlantia. 

 

Might sound harsh but I don't ever want to be the one that almost shot
someone because of any excuse!

 

Janyn

 

From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Garth G.
Groff
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:36 AM
To: Archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....

 

Lady Kaytarzyna,

Are you suggesting that at a tournament we marshals, as participating
archers, should refuse to shoot? Absolutely! But even more than that,
the marshal-in-charge MUST refuse to set up and open a range on a space
that does not meet kingdom safety standards. Period. Not to do so would
endanger the MIC's warrant, and in case of an accident, would open the
Kingdom (not to mention the MIC) up to all sorts of Society sanctions
and possible legal troubles.

Closing the range would undoubtedly cause a lot of hard feelings, a
blizzard of emails, probably not be taken seriously by the powers that
be (outside of the archery community), and possibly cause archery to be
excluded at that event in the future, but it is the only possible course
of action. 

Kind regards,


Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir Target Archery Marshal

On 9/16/2010 9:17 AM, Katherine Hawkins wrote: 

I agree that the TA Marshall in Charge needs to communicate with the
Autocrat as to the needs for a  suitable site for archery.  I think one
of the biggest problems is that people like to "stretch" the rule in
order to be able to accommodate a shoot.  Let's face it archery on site
means more money.  I think each of us as Atlantia Marshalls should
refuse to shoot a range that is not suitable and ask for a refund.
 

Best regards, 

Katarzyna

 

Lady Katarzyna Witkowska

 

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