[Archers] Pennsic

[deallac at juno.com]

This discussion has been great to hear, but as others have stated, we
have gone this way before.... Lots of early talk, and then either
a barrier, or no followup.  I would love to see this get through
to fruition! :)

One comment, though... Not everyone shoots royal Rounds, and
different Kingdoms have different rankings and names, when they
track them, so using a rank as an eligibility requirement isn't 
really something consistent, nor do I agree with the elimination
of beginners... the Champions shoot already does this.  It's 
either open or elite, and I vote for open.  Let the targets get
shot up.  If it is a special target that someone doesn't want
to see this happen to, don't volunteer it.  Targets, like 
ammo get destroyed :)

Dealla


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Holly Gibbons <holly0920 at yahoo.com>
To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Pennsic
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:46:20 -0700 (PDT)

 Dear Comrades-in-Bows:   Wow! SO many good ideas. Thank you Rowan for your boosterism, thank you Mika for your endless and extremely helpful wisdom, thank you Janyn and Bright Hills, for always being ready to work, thank you all archers for taking this on, thank you Lorelei, Fearless Leader.   I agree with Mika on the back 40. It was only a vain hope to get the whole range. There's plenty of room back around the trailers to have 10 or 12 stations if they'll let us. As to targets, we don't usually use butts except for warmups and folks can do that on the regular range. My standing targets are all foam and cardboard and strap to rebar. Because of this I would have to say that I don't think you can have every archer at Pennsic shoot this thing - - how many of us are there? The targets might not last 1000 shots each. You can also have a limited # of shots to preserve targets. Like Reynard's shoots with one arrow per target. If you shoot 8 arrows per archer and there are 100 archers, you definitely have a target-falling-apart problem. I adore Luce's ground snakes, but 800 shots?   So while I agree that elitism is not what we want here, I would vote that the shoot be restricted to bowmen and above. The targets are going to be difficult, arrows will be lost, and we will have lots of archers to get through the shoot. I am not really interested in running a gigantic event for everyone, as fun as that would be: I am interested in having an expert-level kingdom/individual known world championship that is completely ouside the Pennsic war stuff.   As to individuals, kingdoms, averages, etc. Listen, if we let Mika's score be the average for his Kingdom, this competition is already over! So I think you all shoot for an individual score and then you can sum the best 10 scores (or pick 5 or another number) for each kingdom for the kingdom competition. So Mika, you might have to drag out some more westerners to shoot with you! And BTW, the day we pick has to be a day that does NOT have combat archery going on   :)    (One last thought on the back 40  - - you would probably have to shut down the "youth" (I know it's not called that anymore, but you know what I mean) range to fully utilize the back field behind it. Just a caution. You'd need that space and I don't think there's 100 yards but my memory for the space isn't great.)   If those of you out there can get the politics under control, I volunteer to run the advertising and be the shoot/target coordinator. I know we can count on lots of good targets from Atlantian archers. I agree with Lorelei about this being a lot of work, but many hands make light work, that's why Jonathas' idea of everyone just bringing and being responsible for one target is so brilliant. I don't think we need two days. Set up in the am, shoot, take down. Again, we will not be able to handle an unlimited number of archers without giving up too much of our Pennsic time.   {An aside: It's sad that all that effort making targets and setting up a big shoot already goes into the champs competition and then we cannot use it for this shoot - - but the politics are unsurmountable, I guess. But really, the very nicest thing for the Mid/East Pandas to do would be to let "Atlantia and other Kingdoms" have a third champs team of their own - - something we have heard here has been tried unsuccessfully before. Last summer only 7 Atlantians got to shoot while 28 Easters did. Therein the rub. Do those guys have any idea how much deep, profound unhappiness this policy causes for Atlantian Archers, all of us? I find it so hard to believe that they really want all this bad karma swirling around the champs shoot every year when a solution is right beofre them. If we had our own team, with 35 archers on it, as each the Mid and East do, there would be more than enough happy, happy Atlantian archers!}     I'm getting all worked up. Time to go shoot. ps: See you at Holiday Faire, Lorelei!   Nuala of Needwood Forest Geoffrey of Needwood Forest    

 
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