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[Deedee L Cole]

As stated in another message, I (a female:) feel responsible for getting
this all started
by making a side comment to Theodore, who eventually got this going, but
no to start
my own......(well, maybe not start, since this isn't my first message :)

I have already stated my feelings about wrist straps.  Now for the RR :)

I am one of those who are AGAINST the requirement.  Maybe for the MITs, 
who have never done it, but once you are a warranted marshal, it should
not
be required.  The argument that it is supporting the kingdom is a bit
faulty.
The RR rankings are relatively new in Atlantia, and marshals kept very
safe 
lines before that occurrence.  I know of quite a few currently warranted 
marshals (or maybe just missing an updated class), who I would have
absolutely
NO qualms about their ability to run a safe line for any kind of shoot,
including
RRs (and they know how to score them too :), but these folks are very
much 
against the whole idea of rankings.  It is against their nature, and has
almost 
totally turned them off from wanting to shoot them.  They will shoot
other
shoots, but not RRs.

Ignacio stated in another message about how the classes are needed every 
2 years (as a kingdom marshallate requirement, not his), because things 
can change.  RR's have not changed a bit in the 14 years that I have been

shooting in the Society. 

What does this buy us?  Shooting RR's regularly (if only enough to
maintain
an average), doesn't really buy us anything.  Just because some other
kingdoms 
may have this requirement doesn't mean that we should.  We are not
lemmings 
that have to be followers of all around us.

Enough for now (it's almost 5am, and I have to leave for work :)

Dealla


On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:44:36 -0400 "Janie Darby" <darbyjanie at hotmail.com>
writes:
Greetings!
Since none of the other Ladies have had the lack of sense to wade into
this discussion, let me be the first to offer my opinion.
First, having read Lorenzo's point about wrist straps, I went out to a
sampling of the Archery pages for the various kingdoms, and found,
according to my sampling, that he is correct. Neither Society rules nor
any kingdom rules I could find ban their use. East Kingdom specifically
allows them. Note I said ALLOWS, not REQUIRES. I would object strenuously
to adding another REQUIREMENT. We have enough. 
Lorenzo is the only Atlantian archer I'm aware of who uses the wrist
strap regularly. Given his level of skill and competence, maybe the rest
of us should consider using one. ;-)
Hence I come down in the Yea column for straps that prevent you from
dropping your bow.
Second, with regard to the requirement for Marshals to have a current
Royal Round average PRIOR TO BEING WARRANTED: This is a requirement in
the East Kingdom, who arguably have had the best archery program in the
Society - or at least the best I, with my limited exposure, am aware of.
Many of the ideas for our program grew from exposure to theirs, I
believe.
I see nothing wrong with requiring Marshals in Training to have a current
royal round average. That is a Requirement in the East Kingdom, btw.
IMHO, If you're going to be my marshal at an event, or at practice, I
want to know that you know how to shoot one. This is a very minimal
requirement, which, as has been pointed out, can be fulfilled easily in
one day. Why is this a big deal? The rules specifically state that the
ONLY TIME a royal round average is required is for MITs prior to
warranting.
Hence I come down in favor of requiring Marshals in Training to have a
current Royal Round Average prior to being warranted.
Personally, I use the Royal Rounds as a measure primarily against myself,
and try to stay out of the competetive fray. Note I said TRY. It is my
favorite shoot? No, but it's easy for a fledling group to set up and
requires minimal equipment. Also, it's good for perfecting your shooting
at known distances. You still need to shoot at variable distances, roving
ranges, moving targets if you can get 'em, with as much variety as
possible to hone your skills. I spent this past Sunday morning learning
to bowfish, and hope to get a chance to practice it this summer since
it's supposed to be a really good way to hone your instinctive skills.
I don't care what your ranking is. I do care that you're competent,
patient, have a good sense of humor instead of an overlarge ego, and know
how to make practice and events fun while staying safe. Unfortunately, we
can't write that into the requirements.
I want to shoot lots of arrows at an event, and I want it planned so that
everyone, from a newbie at the line for the first time, to a Grand Bowman
Elite, has a good time. It's the Marshals who sell archery to newbies,
and without newbies, we'll eventually die, but we also have to keep the
top flight archers motivated and coming back for more.
With regard to Jerry's comment regarding marks on risers and strings:
Marks on risers and limbs are permitted by the Society, and have
heretofore been permitted in Kingdom. It may be that section of the
regulations needs to be clarified.
Per Society Target Archery rules, peep sights and kisser buttons mounted
on the string are not allowed, and the locators for nocking points "may
not extend above or below the arrow nock in such a way as to allow them
to be used as sighting mechanisms." 
I would prefer that we not go against Society regulations.
Note: These are all my opinions and are not meant to offend anyone. I
don't claim to be an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but
Ignacio asked for feedback, so here it is.

Briana Maclukas
mka Janie Darby



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