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<DIV>As stated in another message, I (a female:) feel responsible for getting
this all started</DIV>
<DIV>by making a side comment to Theodore, who eventually got this going, but no
to start</DIV>
<DIV>my own......(well, maybe not start, since this isn't my first message
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<DIV>I have already stated my feelings about wrist straps. Now for the RR
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<DIV>I am one of those who are AGAINST the requirement. Maybe for the
MITs, </DIV>
<DIV>who have never done it, but once you are a warranted marshal, it should
not</DIV>
<DIV>be required. The argument that it is supporting the kingdom is a bit
faulty.</DIV>
<DIV>The RR rankings are relatively new in Atlantia, and marshals kept very safe
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<DIV>lines before that occurrence. I know of quite a few currently
warranted </DIV>
<DIV>marshals (or maybe just missing an updated class), who I would have
absolutely</DIV>
<DIV>NO qualms about their ability to run a safe line for any kind of shoot,
including</DIV>
<DIV>RRs (and they know how to score them too :), but these folks are very much
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<DIV>against the whole idea of rankings. It is against their nature, and
has almost </DIV>
<DIV>totally turned them off from wanting to shoot them. They will shoot
other</DIV>
<DIV>shoots, but not RRs.</DIV>
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<DIV>Ignacio stated in another message about how the classes are needed every
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<DIV>2 years (as a kingdom marshallate requirement, not his), because things
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<DIV>can change. RR's have not changed a bit in the 14 years that I have
been </DIV>
<DIV>shooting in the Society. </DIV>
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<DIV>What does this buy us? Shooting RR's regularly (if only enough to
maintain</DIV>
<DIV>an average), doesn't really buy us anything. Just because some other
kingdoms </DIV>
<DIV>may have this requirement doesn't mean that we should. We are not
lemmings </DIV>
<DIV>that have to be followers of all around us.</DIV>
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<DIV>Enough for now (it's almost 5am, and I have to leave for work :)</DIV>
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<DIV>Dealla</DIV>
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<DIV>On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:44:36 -0400 "Janie Darby" <<A
href="mailto:darbyjanie@hotmail.com">darbyjanie@hotmail.com</A>>
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<P>Greetings!</P>
<P>Since none of the other Ladies have had the lack of sense to wade into this
discussion, let me be the first to offer my opinion.</P></DIV>
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<P>First, having read Lorenzo's point about wrist straps, I went out to a
sampling of the Archery pages for the various kingdoms, and found, according
to my sampling, that he is correct. Neither Society rules nor any kingdom
rules I could find ban their use. East Kingdom specifically allows them. Note
I said ALLOWS, not REQUIRES. I would object strenuously to adding another
REQUIREMENT. We have enough. </P>
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<P>Lorenzo is the only Atlantian archer I'm aware of who uses the wrist strap
regularly. Given his level of skill and competence, maybe the rest of us
should consider using one. ;-)</P>
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<P>Hence I come down in the Yea column for straps that prevent you from
dropping your bow.</P>
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<P>Second, with regard to the requirement for Marshals to have a current Royal
Round average PRIOR TO BEING WARRANTED: This is a requirement in the East
Kingdom, who arguably have had the best archery program in the Society - or at
least the best I, with my limited exposure, am aware of. Many of the
ideas for our program grew from exposure to theirs, I believe.</P>
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<P>I see nothing wrong with requiring Marshals in Training to have a
current royal round average. That is a Requirement in the East Kingdom, btw.
IMHO, If you're going to be my marshal at an event, or at practice, I want to
know that you know how to shoot one. This is a very minimal
requirement, which, as has been pointed out, can be fulfilled easily in one
day. Why is this a big deal? The rules specifically state that the ONLY TIME a
royal round average is required is for MITs prior to warranting.</P>
<P>Hence I come down in favor of requiring Marshals in Training to have a
current Royal Round Average prior to being warranted.</P>
<P>Personally, I use the Royal Rounds as a measure primarily against
myself, and try to stay out of the competetive fray. Note I said TRY. It
is my favorite shoot? No, but it's easy for a fledling group to set up
and requires minimal equipment. Also, it's good for perfecting your
shooting at known distances. You still need to shoot at variable distances,
roving ranges, moving targets if you can get 'em, with as much variety as
possible to hone your skills. I spent this past Sunday morning learning to
bowfish, and hope to get a chance to practice it this summer since
it's supposed to be a really good way to hone your instinctive skills.</P>
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<P>I don't care what your ranking is. I do care that you're competent,
patient, have a good sense of humor instead of an overlarge ego, and know how
to make practice and events fun while staying safe. Unfortunately, we
can't write that into the requirements.</P>
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<P>I want to shoot lots of arrows at an event, and I want it planned so that
everyone, from a newbie at the line for the first time, to a Grand Bowman
Elite, has a good time. It's the Marshals who sell archery to newbies, and
without newbies, we'll eventually die, but we also have to keep the top flight
archers motivated and coming back for more.</P>
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<P>With regard to Jerry's comment regarding marks on risers and strings: Marks
on risers and limbs are permitted by the Society, and have heretofore been
permitted in Kingdom. It may be that section of the regulations needs to be
clarified.</P>
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<P>Per Society Target Archery rules, peep sights and kisser buttons mounted on
the string are not allowed, and the locators for nocking points "may not
extend above or below the arrow nock in such a way as to allow them to be used
as sighting mechanisms." </P>
<P>I would prefer that we not go against Society regulations.</P>
<DIV>Note: These are all my opinions and are not meant to offend anyone. I
don't claim to be an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but Ignacio
asked for feedback, so here it is.</DIV>
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<DIV>Briana Maclukas</DIV>
<DIV>mka Janie Darby</DIV></DIV><BR clear=all>
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