[Archers] RE: Too many useless Royal Round Scores

[BRNDALSTON at aol.com]

Since I am not a really active archer marshal, I don't normally participate 
in these discussions, however I have to open my mouth on this one.

I think submitting only the top three scores for a day is a fine idea. I am 
one of those people who only shoots at four or five events out of the year 
and doesn't get hardly any practice in outside of events. My score is a 
dismal 13, I think, for the highest and I would just as soon not submit any 
RR scores due to embarrassment. I certainly don't want my score posted 
somewhere with my name so anyone can go look at it and it laugh. So three 
scores is just fine with me, even though in a year's time I probably only 
have four or five scores to make my average.

As to the database, since this goes off an average, it seems that old scores 
that are really low are going to bring down your average, thus lowering your 
ranking. I think it would be a good idea to remove old scores for that 
reason, as well as space on the computer. As was said earlier, we may have a 
lot of space now, but down the road we might be having this conversation 
again because the database has grown too large. I cannot see any useful 
reason for leaving the old scores up. Database's can be set up to 
automatically remove information if you want to do that. You can set it up so 
all scores before a certain date are removed, or you can go in, do a query 
search on the scores prior to a date and then delete them in one fell swoop. 
It is not that difficult or time consuming to remove items from a database, 
so I don't see how that argument is very valid.

Personally I would like to see the whole requirement for Royal Rounds 
disappear. I think if people want to have their scores submitted, and want to 
play the "ranking" game then they should have that available, but for those 
who do not want to do that, and still want to be a marshal, they shouldn't 
have to (not the MIT's or the current marshals). I shoot because I like 
archery, not because I want to beat everyone else out there (which is a good 
thing, considering my horrible scores;). I don't have much time between work 
and school, scribing and equestrian to do a lot of archery. But I like being 
a marshal so my Barony can have archery at an event occasionally and not have 
to bother Sir Tnek every time they do. I feel like I am being punished, 
almost, just because I am not fanatical about archery. It is really starting 
to turn me off to marshalling, to be quite honest.

Anyway, I think it should be up to the archer, not the marshal, to decide if 
they want scores submitted or not, and that only the top three on any given 
day be submitted, if the archer so desires.

Brandy
(Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift - formerly archery marshal of Marinus - 
having just stepped down due to the demands of the Scrivenor Royal job- which 
doesn't mean much, since I am the only warranted archery marshal in Marinus 
currently)

In a message dated 6/5/2002 6:19:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
deallac at juno.com writes:


> 
> I find myself agreeing with Sigfried (not that unusual:)
> Anything over 3 on any given day is relatively useless, as many others
> have
> stated. 
> 
> Allowing up to 3 is also good, as many have stated, since not everyone
> has regular practices, and/or shoots only RRs at any given event
> (practice or regular event).  Many folks shoot RRs because they 
> like them, others, just to play along with the 'Ranking Game', but would
> rather shoot more interesting shoots when available.  
> 
> I am as guilty as any of submitting many scores from a single practice,
> but have
> no problem with only the highest 3.  On the other hand.....  What is all
> of this 
> about 'approving the scores', that Gregge refers to.  This goes back to
> the name
> thing (NO LET'S NOT REVISIT IT), in that I don't understand what is being
> 'APPROVED'.  As I understand it the scorekeeper was setup to collect the
> scores
> and maintain the database (and associated web pages in their various
> forms).
> 
> It doesn't only fall on Gregge, since I know that others have been
> cleared to enter
> scores (how many? who? I don't know), so discussions of work load are
> useless.
> He can always allow more to help.
> 
> Robert, as I remember it (please speak up if I am wrong, Bob), entered
> every score
> sent to him, as is.  He made no judgements, and there was no 'acceptance'
> 
> involved.
> 
> With this increasingly annoying emphasis on RRs and rankings (yes, I am
> inundating 
> with various styles - partly to show what can be done - obviously not for
> ultimate
> scores, if you check them out :), things are getting real obnoxious. 
> 
> What ever happened to shooting for enjoyment????
> 
> 


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