[Archers] RE: Score Keeper

Ignacio teatimemates at earthlink.net
Sat Feb 9 09:25:30 PST 2002


Theodore;

Answered within the text . . . .

Also sending this back out on the list because Theodore has some good
comments and all should be informed of the answers.

Thanks

Ignacio Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Theodore.Shertzer at allfirst.com
>[mailto:Theodore.Shertzer at allfirst.com]
>Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:33 AM
>To: teatimemates at earthlink.net
>Cc: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>Subject: Score Keeper
>
>
>
>
>Hello Ignacio,
>
>As you may know I am known  as Lord Theodore Billingsley of
>Kittredge and reside
>in the Barony of Lochmere and
>would like to be considered for the Atlantian Score Keeper.

You are the second one that has displayed interest in being considered for
the position.

>
> I already have a spreadsheet, that keeps the last 8 scores for
>each archer,
>automatically selects and averages the  top three scores,
>automatically divides
>out the different bow classifications, indicates automatically
>when the scores
>have expired, and always flags the lowest score(s) to be replace
>out of the 8,
>automatically color codes most of the ranking classifications,
>etc. Of course,
>it can be modified to keep as many scores and additional
>information per archer
>as needed.

See response below in reference to 'last 8 scores' . . .

>
>I have made  score sheets similar to this for others.
>
>I presently (as do many others) do not have a web site, but would
>like to send
>the htm files that I have made that would be used for the Web site
>and would be
>equivalent in function and would demo what is requested.

Straight htm files that give a representation of what will be displayed on
the working site will be displayed on my site for any that ask. I will put
each into a separate directory structure and notify you of the url. I can
not handle any database on my site, but have no problems with the flat htm
files.


>Since, I
>and others
>like me may not be selected  and since the Atlantian server might
>be used by the
>new score keeper, I really feel that obtaining a site and building the site
>before  being selected is very unproductive and a waste of Web resources. I
>believe that not having a web site immediately available to display the htm
>files should not stop anyone from applying for the position. The desire,
>willingness to serve, having the time to keep to the posting
>schedule, having
>the skill to keep the scores as required, etc. should be a bigger
>factor than
>owning a site before being selected. As mentioned in the
>correspondence on the
>archers list, there are others that are Web gurus who would love
>to be the Web
>keeper for those that do not have or want a web site, but do not
>want to do the
>actual scoring.

I agree completely.

>
>Since, the decision is to be made at the end of the month, and
>since the current
>scores would still have to be obtained and entered into the winners scoring
>methodology and then transferred to the appropriate Web site, the
>obtaining of a
>site and URL address by one who may not have one I would believe
>should not be
>that complicated to prolong the site from going live once the
>decision is made.
>Not being a web guru, I may be mistaken.

I agree completely. (Is this an echo?)

>
>You also mentioned that archiving the scores would be required.
>What are the
>particulars about this requirement?  How do you wish them to be
>kept and for how
>long?   I'm confused as to the value of keeping scores too long once they
>expire.  I know at one of our scheduled practices alone, we can average 3-5
>royal rounds each practice, and since we could possibly meet over 30 times
>during the season, that could generate a lot of scores for the
>diligent archer.
>And we haven't included yet any royals from any of the events, etc..

The base minimum that has to be kept is a running list of the scores for
each archer for the last 12 months. Being defined by the Royal Round rules.
So If a high score drops off the list (being 367 day old) the next highest
score (any where within the 12 month period) will take its place. Also
keeping in mind that the site is expected to be updated weekly. Which means
that scores can be dropped off weekly. Faster than that is great, but there
also is max period of ten days for updates. How this ACTIVE archiving takes
place is up to the scorekeeper.

Yes, I understand that this could create a large database (relational or
flat (Excel)). But the time frame is based on the established rules.

I have received from Robert a supply of hardcopy and softcopy archived
scores that he said was for the years that he was scorekeeper. These will be
passed on. I suspect at least some type of archiving needs to be
accomplished. For example if an archer obtained the rank of Bowman Elite and
did not shoot for three years. And due to memory they thing they were Grand
Bowman Elite or if the scorekeeper had a glitch (if it can happen, it will)
and they are listed as Bowman - then there is some form of archive to refer
to, to verify the issue. How this data is archived, again is up to the
scorekeeper, assuming that it is kept in a form that can be passed on (some
day to the next scorekeeper) and read.

>
>Again, I would like to be considered, but if the requirement to have a site
>prior to selection is that important to the committee, in making
>the choice.
>Then I will have to bow out, since I do not plan to acquire a
>site, have no need
>for one, unless I am selected.
>Otherwise,  I plan to e-mail you the appropriate HTM files as
>noted by the 22nd,
>unless informed to do otherwise.

Send away. As soon as I get the files I will put them up on the web.

And again Theodore - Thanks

>
>In service,
>
>Theodore Billingsley of Kittredge
>(Ted Shertzer)
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