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Today's Topics:

   1. APEC - Proposed Corpora Change (via Announcements)
   2. Deadline RE:  APEC - Proposed Corpora Change (via Announcements)


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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:23:57 -0500 (EST)
From: via Announcements <announcements at lists.sca.org>
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Subject: [Announcements] APEC - Proposed Corpora Change
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At the July 2013 Board Meeting, the Additional Peerage Exploratory
Committee (?APEC?) proposed that the Board of Directors create a new
Patent-bearing Peerage Order parallel to the Orders of the Chivalry, the
Laurel and the Pelican. This Rapier Peerage would be for the related
martial arts of rapier and all forms of cut & thrust in the SCA. In August
of 2013, the APEC?s proposal for name, heraldry and badge was sent out to
the membership for commentary, and a second committee was formed of
representatives appointed by the Kingdoms of the Known World to review the
proposal and represent their interests. After reviewing all commentary
received from the membership and the committees, the Board believes there
is enough interest to request further commentary on the changes that would
be required to Corpora if the Board decides to create such an Order. This
will be the final opportunity for the membership to make its opinions and
wishes known on this subject as the Board will vote at the January 2015
Board meeting on whether or not to create this Order.

In the event a rapier/cut & thrust peerage is created, the following would
be the proposed changes to Corpora (additions in red; deletions in blue and
struck out.)

Glossary, page 9.

DELETE

[? Peerage: Collectively, the members of the Order of Chivalry, the Order
of the Laurel, and the Order of the Pelican, are referred to as the
Peerage. A member of any of these Orders is a Peer.]

ADD

? Peerage: Collectively, the members of the Order of Chivalry, the Order of
the Laurel, and the Order of the Pelican, and the Order of Defense are
referred to as the Peerage. A member of any of these Orders is a Peer.

VIII. PERSONAL AWARDS AND TITLES

A. Patents of Arms

2. Order of Precedence Within the Peerage
DELETE
[The Crown may establish the order of precedence within the peerage
according to the laws and customs of the kingdom. However, the Chivalry,
the Laurel, and the Pelican, and Defense are of equal precedence and must
be considered as one group.]

ADD
The Crown may establish the order of precedence within the peerage
according to the laws and customs of the kingdom. However, the orders of
the Chivalry, the Laurel, and the Pelican, and Defense are of equal
precedence and must be considered as one group.

4. Patent Orders:

ADD

d. The Order of Defense:
(i) Members of the Order of Defense may choose to swear fealty, but are not
required to do so. The candidate must be considered the equal of his or her
prospective peers with the basic weapons of rapier and/or cut-and-thrust
combat. The candidate must have applied this skill and/or knowledge for the
instruction of members and service to the kingdom to an extent above and
beyond that normally expected of members of the Society.

(2) The duties of the members of the order are as follows:

(a)     To set an example of courtesy and chivalrous conduct on and off the
field of honor.
(b)     To respect the Crown of the kingdom; to support and uphold the laws
of the kingdom and Corpora.
(c)     If in fealty, to support and uphold the Crown of his or her kingdom.
(d)     To enrich the kingdom by sharing his or her knowledge and skills.
(e)     To enhance the renown and defend the honor of the peer?s Lady or
Lord.
(f)     To advise the Crown on the advancement of candidates for the Order
of Defense

(The section on royal peerage becomes section e, etc.)

D. Titles
4. The titles listed here are considered standard, and may be used by those
who have earned or been granted the appropriate rank or award within the
Society. The College of Arms publishes a more extensive list of titles and
alternative forms, which may also be used freely by qualified persons. In
addition, the College of Arms has full approval authority over new
alternative titles, which must be added to their list before being released
for use in the Society.

DELETE

[TITLE

Master/Mistress
Members of the Orders of the Laurel, the Pelican, and Mastery of Arms.]

ADD

TITLE

Master/Mistress
Members of the Orders of the Laurel, the Pelican, Mastery of Arms, and
Defense.


IX. Society Combat

DELETE:

[C. Rapier Fighting in the Society
The Board acknowledges rapier combat as an ancillary activity of the
Society when properly supervised by the Marshals and when approved by
individual kingdoms. Rapier combat may take place within a kingdom only by
rules established by the Marshallate of that kingdom and after the approval
of those rules by the Marshal of the Society. The Marshal of the Society
will maintain guidelines for rapier combat within the Society. Rapier
combat, not having been part of formal tournament combat in the Middle
Ages, shall not be a part of formal tournament lists for royal ranks and
armigerous titles. ]

ADD

C. Royal Lists
Only Chivalric (rattan) combat shall be used for formal tournament lists
for royal ranks.

[This last might need some explanation. The current Section IX.C is a
holdover from a Governing and Policy decision from October 1979, when the
Board decided that rapier combat would be allowed in the SCA as an
ancillary activity. Rapier combat is no longer considered an ancillary
activity and has not been for many years. Also, the duties of the Society
Earl Marshal are properly defined in section VI.D. So this section is
reduced to a single clear, unambiguous rule.]





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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:35:44 -0500 (EST)
From: via Announcements <announcements at lists.sca.org>
To: announcements at lists.sca.org
Subject: [Announcements] Deadline RE:  APEC - Proposed Corpora Change
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The deadline for comments for the following is January 15, 2015.
______________

At the July 2013 Board Meeting, the Additional Peerage Exploratory
Committee (?APEC?) proposed that the Board of Directors create a new
Patent-bearing Peerage Order parallel to the Orders of the Chivalry, the
Laurel and the Pelican. This Rapier Peerage would be for the related
martial arts of rapier and all forms of cut & thrust in the SCA. In August
of 2013, the APEC?s proposal for name, heraldry and badge was sent out to
the membership for commentary, and a second committee was formed of
representatives appointed by the Kingdoms of the Known World to review the
proposal and represent their interests. After reviewing all commentary
received from the membership and the committees, the Board believes there
is enough interest to request further commentary on the changes that would
be required to Corpora if the Board decides to create such an Order. This
will be the final opportunity for the membership to make its opinions and
wishes known on this subject as the Board will vote at the January 2015
Board meeting on whether or not to create this Order.

In the event a rapier/cut & thrust peerage is created, the following would
be the proposed changes to Corpora (additions in red; deletions in blue and
struck out.)

Glossary, page 9.

DELETE

[? Peerage: Collectively, the members of the Order of Chivalry, the Order
of the Laurel, and the Order of the Pelican, are referred to as the
Peerage. A member of any of these Orders is a Peer.]

ADD

? Peerage: Collectively, the members of the Order of Chivalry, the Order of
the Laurel, and the Order of the Pelican, and the Order of Defense are
referred to as the Peerage. A member of any of these Orders is a Peer.

VIII. PERSONAL AWARDS AND TITLES

A. Patents of Arms

2. Order of Precedence Within the Peerage
DELETE
[The Crown may establish the order of precedence within the peerage
according to the laws and customs of the kingdom. However, the Chivalry,
the Laurel, and the Pelican, and Defense are of equal precedence and must
be considered as one group.]

ADD
The Crown may establish the order of precedence within the peerage
according to the laws and customs of the kingdom. However, the orders of
the Chivalry, the Laurel, and the Pelican, and Defense are of equal
precedence and must be considered as one group.

4. Patent Orders:

ADD

d. The Order of Defense:
(i) Members of the Order of Defense may choose to swear fealty, but are not
required to do so. The candidate must be considered the equal of his or her
prospective peers with the basic weapons of rapier and/or cut-and-thrust
combat. The candidate must have applied this skill and/or knowledge for the
instruction of members and service to the kingdom to an extent above and
beyond that normally expected of members of the Society.

(2) The duties of the members of the order are as follows:

(a)     To set an example of courtesy and chivalrous conduct on and off the
field of honor.
(b)     To respect the Crown of the kingdom; to support and uphold the laws
of the kingdom and Corpora.
(c)     If in fealty, to support and uphold the Crown of his or her kingdom.
(d)     To enrich the kingdom by sharing his or her knowledge and skills.
(e)     To enhance the renown and defend the honor of the peer?s Lady or
Lord.
(f)     To advise the Crown on the advancement of candidates for the Order
of Defense

(The section on royal peerage becomes section e, etc.)

D. Titles
4. The titles listed here are considered standard, and may be used by those
who have earned or been granted the appropriate rank or award within the
Society. The College of Arms publishes a more extensive list of titles and
alternative forms, which may also be used freely by qualified persons. In
addition, the College of Arms has full approval authority over new
alternative titles, which must be added to their list before being released
for use in the Society.

DELETE

[TITLE

Master/Mistress
Members of the Orders of the Laurel, the Pelican, and Mastery of Arms.]

ADD

TITLE

Master/Mistress
Members of the Orders of the Laurel, the Pelican, Mastery of Arms, and
Defense.


IX. Society Combat

DELETE:

[C. Rapier Fighting in the Society
The Board acknowledges rapier combat as an ancillary activity of the
Society when properly supervised by the Marshals and when approved by
individual kingdoms. Rapier combat may take place within a kingdom only by
rules established by the Marshallate of that kingdom and after the approval
of those rules by the Marshal of the Society. The Marshal of the Society
will maintain guidelines for rapier combat within the Society. Rapier
combat, not having been part of formal tournament combat in the Middle
Ages, shall not be a part of formal tournament lists for royal ranks and
armigerous titles. ]

ADD

C. Royal Lists
Only Chivalric (rattan) combat shall be used for formal tournament lists
for royal ranks.

[This last might need some explanation. The current Section IX.C is a
holdover from a Governing and Policy decision from October 1979, when the
Board decided that rapier combat would be allowed in the SCA as an
ancillary activity. Rapier combat is no longer considered an ancillary
activity and has not been for many years. Also, the duties of the Society
Earl Marshal are properly defined in section VI.D. So this section is
reduced to a single clear, unambiguous rule.]



Comments are strongly encouraged and can be sent to:
SCA Inc.
Box 360789
Milpitas,  CA 95036

You may also email comments at lists.sca.org.

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