[Ponte Alto] Fwd: Please Read! Another Possible Indoor Site For BaronialActivities

[L E Storey]

I would welcome an opportunity to socialize, work on projects, learn
about others' projects, etc. -- I can imagine other artists in the
area being interested in "Artisans' Row" on Sundays :-)

Cheers,
-Iohanna

On Dec 22, 2007 10:59 AM, Irwin <dwatsonirwin at cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> Aside from the monetary particulars, I would like to emphasize that this
> does not need to be a fighters only thing. As Sir Thomas (and others) have
> pointed out it could be a catalyst for other interests in the Barony to have
> a place to meet. In my mind I look to it as an opportunity to get together
> on a regular basis with all members of the Barony. A way to socialize, work
> on projects, plot against our enem..... Well we ARE Italian after all....
> :-)
>
>
>
> YIS,
>
> Lady Perronelle la peintre
> mka Debbie Irwin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: thrid at aol.com
> To: ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org
>
>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:58 AM
> Subject: [Ponte Alto] Fwd: Please Read! Another Possible Indoor Site For
> BaronialActivities
>
> To All,
>
> As Max has indicated, A group of the senior fighters and knights have
> pledged to cover up to half of the cost of the site; therefor the financial
> liability to the Barony would be approximately $260 per month.  If the
> activity has no traction after two months, we will not continue with the
> site.  We are planning to invite fighters from other groups.  Max has
> indicated he thinks he can get a group from the East to come down for a
> practice or two.  As you can see by the names listed in the original
> posting, we have some commitment to the project.  All of those people have
> indicated they will support the venture.  Since yesterday, I have heard from
> a few other fighters not listed that they too will support this activity.
>
> The arrangements with the school are. we can use the school on the weekend;
> however, we have to pay a janitorial fee of $32 per hour with a minimum of 4
> hours.  We are hoping that this site on the weekends might encourage other
> interest groups to come out and make use of it.  The site would work for the
> fencers, dancing, A&S activities, or general socializing and recruitment.
>
> Actual combat archery and siege weapons clearly will not work inside the gym
> (at least without causing great damage); however, the site is suitable for
> those interested in siege and combat archery to help plan for Pennsic and
> coordinate with the heavy fighter unit. The heavy fighters would love to
> coordinate with the siege and archers, help them obtain armor they may need
> and plan battle tactics.
> We as a Barony do not get a chance to get together as a whole group too
> often.  Mostly only at monthly business meetings an hour a month and at a
> few local events. I liked the picnic in the Park practices we use to have
> because it brought out a large diverse group to the park which were able to
> get to know each other and have fun.  It is my home this practice site, for
> a few months, will be an opportunity for the Barony to interact during a
> period of time when the weather would normally have us shut in.
>
> Thomas of Calais
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dcadenise at aol.com
> To: thrid at aol.com
> Sent: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 9:14 am
> Subject: Fwd: [Ponte Alto] Please Read! Another Possible Indoor Site For
> BaronialActivities
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Max Nelson <maxntropy at worldnet.att.net>
> To: The Barony of Ponte Alto <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 7:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] Please Read! Another Possible Indoor Site For
> BaronialActivities
>
>
> Anne:
>
> The fighters have *committed* to providing half of the required
> funds. Regardless of participation, some of us in the command staff
> have decided we would personally provide whatever funds were necessary
> to make-up whatever short-falls might occur to ensure we reach the 50%
> mark, regardless (we are that committed to the need for an indoor site
> for the Barony, and we are that certain that we will get significant
> turnout for the practices). In point of fact, we feel that once the
> indoor practices get rolling, we will get significant participation
> from outside the Barony and will have donations well beyond the 50%
> mark.
>
> I believe we need to sign a month-to-month agreement with the school.
> We can thus sign-up for the first month, then the second month, then
> the third month. Naturally, we need to sign the agreements a bit
> before the month begins (though we probably can get some slack for
> January, given the holidays and such).
>
> The Barony would be financially liable for the month, though the
> Senior fighters of the Barony (e.g., myself, Sir Thomas, etc...) have
> agreed that regardless of participation we would provide the 50%
> donation. So that is, in fact, a promise for which you can hold us
> liable and not a "promise".
>
> The need is immediately immediate because Winter is upon us, we can no
> longer effectively use our outdoor site, and if we want to secure the
> indoor site for January we need to let the school know "immediately"
> because we should've actually let them know some days ago, but have
> some slack still.... if we wait much longer we will lose the entire
> month of January and all of the momentum and enthusiasm we have built-
> up.
>
> We could act provisionally on the first month and then take a full
> vote of the Barony at a meeting for the other two months at the next
> Baronial meeting. But we need emergency action for January.
>
> We have sufficient administrative resources for collecting the
> donations. As to forwarding to the Exchequer within 14 days, is it
> allowable to forward by mail (in which case we can easily do that once
> we get an address) or we can simply drop it off at a location and time
> of their preference -- won't be a problem at all.
>
> Siege and Archery, sadly not (though of course our friends and allies
> in Stierbach are all set and able for Archery!)... but we *strongly*
> hope that dancers, artisans, fencers, singers, and whomever else wants
> will come out and take advantage of the space for weekend Winter
> activities!!! We can even work dance practice into our fighter
> practice to make sure our fighters get some dance learning' into
> 'em!!! ;)
>
> Hope that helps clarify.
>
> If there are any other questions, let me know!!!
>
> In Service,
>
> Baron Max Von Halstern
>
> On Dec 21, 2007, at 6:09 PM, Barbara wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'm not an officer, but I have a few thoughts and questions from
> > over
> > here in the back seats.
> >
> > First thought is: the barony has money, and we don't build it up
> > just to sit
> > on; we want to use it for something that helps the group and
> > furthers our
> > educational mission. But my second thought is: $130 a week would
> > deplete
> > that money at a rapid pace.
> >
> > Lets see...the financial liability would be anywhere from: $520
> > (Half of
> > $130 * 8 weeks) TO $1560 (worst case, with no donations, of $130 * 12
> > weeks). Is that accurate?
> >
> > That's a lot of silent auction receipts. I'm sure that we who
> > helped raise
> > the money for the barony really WANT to support the fighters and
> > have a
> > well-recognized army; on the other hand, that fighting community was
> > represented by only a small handful last weekend when we were
> > raising money,
> > and support should be two-way, in my opinion.
> >
> > Still, promises of donations were mentioned. Which leads to my
> > questions
> > about the mechanisms of this:
> >
> > - What kind of contract needs to be signed? (Remember that only
> > seneschals
> > can sign contracts) For how long a commitment is required?
> > - Regardless of promises of donations, the barony would still be
> > responsible
> > for financial obligations listed in the contract, yes?
> > - How "immediate" is the immediate answer needed? And what is
> > driving the
> > need for an immediate answer? It is always a concern when the
> > Emergency
> > Financial Committee needs to make a decision, rather than allowing the
> > regular process to be worked through and voted on at the barony
> > meeting.
> > - Is there possibilities for a provisional approval for a limited
> > time by
> > the emergency financial committee, pending a longer-term decision
> > based on a
> > full vote at a barony meeting.
> > - Do you have a plan for collecting donations at the practices?
> > Note that
> > per society/kingdom laws and policies that:
> > a) anyone collecting SCA money must be at least 18 and be an SCA
> > member
> > b) money needs to be deposited within 14 days
> > c) money can not be deposited into a personal account and then
> > forwarded -
> > it must go into the group account.
> >
> > I doubt that the exchequer is going to want to commit to being at
> > every
> > practice, so someone is going to have to be responsible for getting
> > the
> > funds to the exchequer on a regular basis, and a form of check/
> > balance needs
> > to be set up, not unlike we do for managing the an event's cash box.
> >
> > I want to be clear that I'm NOT against doing this. I just want to
> > make
> > sure that decision makers have a clear understanding of all the
> > facts and
> > implications, and that YOU have a clear understanding of what you're
> > getting
> > yourself into too!
> >
> > (Gee...I don't suppose they have enough room for siege? Combat
> > archery?
> > No, I didn't think so. <pout>)
> >
> > Mistress Anne of Carthew
> > OL, OP
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ponte-alto-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
> > [mailto:ponte-alto-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of
> > ladykatharina at verizon.net
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:53 PM
> > To: ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org
> > Subject: [Ponte Alto] Please Read! Another Possible Indoor Site For
> > BaronialActivities
> >
> > Greetings unto the Populace!
> >
> > The Barony has been offered an excellent opportunity by the generous
> > folks
> > at the Lemon Road Elementary School to make that site available to the
> > Barony for any Sunday afternoon activities we might be interested in
> > having
> > weekly during the Winter.
> >
> > As we hope many of you know, our weekly fighting practices have become
> > increasingly attended and the Barony has been taking an increasingly
> > important role in the Northern Region Army in fact, at Kingdom
> > Crusades,
> > the Baronial fighting unit formed the bulwark of the Northern Army
> > contingent.
> >
> > We would like to take the opportunity afforded by the Lemon Road
> > schools
> > offer to continue our ability to train the Baronial fighters and
> > melee unit
> > throughout the Winter and to even potentially offer our indoor site
> > to the
> > greater Northern Army for some practices during the Winter.
> > Naturally, we
> > would also like to have the broader Baronial community take
> > advantage of the
> > Schools offer, as well, and would like to have the dancing,
> > fencing,
> > chorale and other active communities take part in the facilities
> > offered.
> >
> > Thus, the fighters of the heavy weapons practice would like to
> > propose to
> > the barony that the school facilities at Lemon Road Elementary
> > School be
> > rented on Sundays for an 8 to 12 week period (depending on interest
> > and
> > weather) in order to begin melee training. The cost would be
> > approximately
> > $130 a week for a 4 hour period (the shortest available). The
> > fighters have
> > agreed to pay a significant portion of the expenses by themselves
> > providing
> > a $5.00 "donation" each per week for the use. We are figuring we
> > will have
> > about 10-14 fighters per week in the beginning but believe interest
> > might
> > grow outside the barony after word gets out.
> >
> > What we are asking the Barony to consider is, to pay up to half the
> > expense
> > of the facility. If we get enough fighters and or others showing
> > up, the
> > cost to the barony would be less. If too few fighters show up, a
> > group of
> > the senior fighters and knights will cover the short fall.
> >
> > As mentioned, we sincerely wish to open the site to other
> > activities, i.e.
> > dance, fencing, etc. The gym has a stage area just off the main
> > floor which
> > would be suitable to a variety of activities. This site could also
> > be used
> > for a newcomers event. Various interest groups witin the barony
> > can meet
> > and greet newcomers and display their activity.
> >
> > We need to make a decision immediately, so we are calling for a
> > discussion
> > on this list leading to immediate action by the Barony so we may let
> > the
> > School know of our decision and, hopefully, begin taking advantage
> > of their
> > generous offer for the significant benefit of our Barony.
> >
> > In service and gratitude,
> >
> > Sir Strykar
> > Mistress Cunen
> > Sir Thomas
> > Sir Guy, OP
> > Sir Strykar
> > Sir Brian
> > Sir Michael
> > Sir Grethferth
> > Baron Max von Halstren
> > Lord Gunnar
> > Lady Katharina
> > Lady Marie Therese
> > Lord Jurgen
> > Lord Connor
> >
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