[Ponte Alto] Fwd: RE: Demo and Marshal Activities (Ponte Alto)

Tue May 3 08:20:30 PDT 2005

Greetings Ponte Alto,

I seemed to have misinterpreted what was conveyed to me. The Marshal Activities at Demo is not forbidden. The way in which it was handled in conveying information to Kingdom is where our troubles came in. Marshal activity for Demo's is outlined in the Marshal's handbook. I've attached the reply I received from Jarl Timoch below, when I requested we be able to do Scott Cozad's demonstration. So that everyone will understand there is a method for applying to the SCA to do Marshal DEMO's and how to go about it. I am also encouarageing Scott to try doing the Fieor (sp) demonstration at the June Demo because his efforts are appreciated, and because it's an interesting form of Marshal Art.

Any questions?

YIS,
Lady Maria-Therese de Normand
Seneschal, Ponte Alto

"Prickett, Timothy" <tim.prickett at us.army.mil> wrote:
From: "Prickett, Timothy" <tim.prickett at us.army.mil>
To: Mary Bowles <mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com>
CC: DuncanCooper at earthlink.net, Master Roland <rmorgens at mitre.org>
Subject: RE: Demo and Marshal Activities (Ponte Alto)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:56:34 -0400 

Hello Lady Maria, 

I have CC'd Lord Duncan and Master Roland on this, to help expedite as needed.  To answer your question specifically, I do not speak FOR the kingdom Seneschal.  Whatever she said goes.  She did ask me.  If this is an SCA demo then no martial activities may occur outside of what the SCA allows.  Your local marshal should be able to show you the rules that specifically cover this.  If this is an SCA demo which includes marshallate covered activities, then the usual drill for cards and waivers must be adhered to.  Those are the (briefly summed up) rules.  I could not download your pictures, so I cannot comment further.

Your first, best point of contact is your local marshal.  This is the information I currently have on: 

Knight Marshal

 Barony of Ponte Alto

 Mem Expires: 12/31/2005

Cooper, Duncan L.(Duncan McClay) 
1819 Olmstead Drive, Falls Church, VA 22043
Tel: 703-903-8876, email: DuncanCooper at earthlink.net

I applaud Scott Cozad for taking the time and energy to try to do a good show for the kids. I hope he can work within the rules, with the Baronial Knight's Marshal to make your demo a success.  If your marshal needs my help or advice, he should know that he can call me or Master Roland and ask.

I hope this helps,

Jarl Timoch

KEM

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Bowles [mailto:mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:59 AM
To: earlmarshal at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Demo and Marshal Activities (Ponte Alto)

Greetings Jarl Timoch Haakonson (Tim Prickett),

Recently one of my Barony (Ponte Alto), Scott Cozad, contacted the Kingdom Waiver Secretary to see if he would need waivers to do a Marshal Demonstration at a Demo. Ann was informed and it sent off a red light in her mind. She contacted you and the Kingdom Chatalaine. The outcome of these communications was that Ponte Alto/SCA could not sponsor a demo with Marshal Activity that was not an SCA approved Marshal Activity. I hope I've got this right. Please correct me if I haven't. 

The style of Demo Scott Cozad would like to give in June is one he's done before with a living history group. Below I've attached his idea as he conveyed it to the Ponte Alto list, because I think it is a good idea. I ask that you reveiw it and either approve or deny the idea. The thought of not having some sort of Marshal demostration at demo's has kicked up an e-mail flurry on my Barony's list. They want it. They think it a integral part of showing and educating the public about the middle ages. Care will be taken in these demo's and children will not come into hazard. Any questions please feel free to contact me, and I will get the experts on this subject in contact with you as soon as possible.

Thank you for you time and effort in giving this a review.

YIS,

Lady Maria-Therese de Normand

Seneschal, Ponte Alto

>From Scott Cozad to the Ponte Alto List (ullrmadr at yahoo.com)

It was my request for clarification that started this
so I feel I should say something publicly.

What I wanted to do was demonstrate historical combat
techniques with the longsword.  I had planned on doing
this with slow work.  By that I mean slow and
controlled movements with the wasters.  I have been
studying these  techniques for several years and have
done the kind of demo I will outline with living
history groups that I am involved with.

The idea is to show what historical combat looked like
and not what you see in movies.  I was going to do
this with wooden wasters and work with my demo partner
beforehand.  I chose the longsword because it is an
impressive weapon and it is easier to see what is
being done even at a distance.

I have pictures from an event that I did a few weeks
ago at home.  It is very similar to what I had hoped
to achieve with the SCA school demos.&nb sp; I will put
those pictures online when I get home tonight.

My intention in asking about doing this demo was not
to stir up a storm.  I wanted to dot all my "t's" and
cross my "I's".  I am saddened by the decision not to
be allowed to do this demo.

Cheers,
Scott Cozad
Edward de Clare in the SCA.

And an addendem to my last post.  All of what I
planned was going to be out of range of the childern. 
The space available would dictate the distance and if
there was not sufficient space the demo would be
altered or scrapped.

Also I do not allow childern to handle weapons of any
sort.  This is a longstanding policy of many of the
living history groups I am part of.

Cheers,
Scott Cozad
Edward de Clare in the SCA

I have uploaded images taken a few weeks ago at a
living history timeline event.  This is what I was
trying to arrange to do.

The images are not in any order but I think this shows
pretty much what I had hoped to achive.  Some of the
images show us using single handed swords and I said I
had planned to use only longswords in my demo.  I
included these to better show more of what I had hoped
to show.  

Here is the url
http://photobucket.com/albums/v643/scozad/MTT%20Demo/

If you have any questions on what you are seeing
please let me know.

Cheers,
Scott Cozad
Edward de Clare in the SCA
Edward the pell in La Belle Company  :-)

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