Bonjour Corun, Yes the elbows can also be pointed to a pourpoint as well. I can show you this style as well. Ich Dien Olaf Ulfbrandrsson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/ponte-alto-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20030928/734ab4a8/attachment-0005.htm>