[MR] Fire Proof - Re: Midwest Tent's Sale

[John Gahrmann]

Andreas has it right here. The language that would restrict usage of tents to those manufactured to meet "fire -retardant" standards would be in most county regulations either in building codes or fire code depending on how the county organizes thier legal requirements. 
 
Yes, Most of the counties in Atlantia probably do have this language. I know that most NC counties do. How is it enforced? I have seen this done at mundane events, where I have actually walked around with the fire inspector and watched them check the labels and that is only one of the many things they inspect. THAT said, this is typically only an issue when an event is open to the public. Private events are generally not an issue. The requirement is typically only enforced at events that require a public event permit of some sort, the permit "type"  or name may vary by the county.  Typically the owner/operator of a site will be well aware of the requirements. 
 
Johann Von Rothenburg

John Gahrmann Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.- George Carlin
 

> From: scadiandreas at triad.rr.com
> To: siegfried at crossbows.biz; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:11:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [MR] Fire Proof - Re: Midwest Tent's Sale
> 
> Greetings from a former Fire Inspector,
> 
> Flame Retardant certification is required of manufacturers of tents in
> certain states.
> State/County/Local Fire Codes may require the use of Flame Retardant
> manufactured tents/temporary structures for any licensed commercial/business
> use. 
> Personal use of tents/temporary structures for recreational use is typically
> not regulated, however... State/County/Local Fire Codes may stipulate it if
> the tent/temporary structure is being used to enclose a mass gathering of
> (greater than x # of people) - even on private property.
> 
> Such particular requirements would be known to the licensed site operator
> and in the contract/rules of the site provided on negotiation.
> 
> Note: All codes I have every reviewed, stated "upon manufacture" and tents
> would carry the certification mark/label/language as approved for use in
> that state. 
> 
> 
> Andreas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Siegfried
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:34 AM
> To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [MR] Fire Proof - Re: Midwest Tent's Sale
> 
> This is 'interesting'. I've never heard of this, tho again, I've never
> been a merchant. They put extra requirements upon the merchant tents
> than they do regular campers? (For I've never yet heard of any SCA
> event east of the mississippi that has required fire-retardant canvas)
> 
> More concerning if sites are requiring this, is that the Flame Retardant
> treatment of canvas, can only be factory applied only lasts a 'couple
> years'. Which varies based upon how much you use a tent, leave it
> exposed to the elements, etc.
> 
> That would mean that a typical event tent probably loses it's flame
> retardant in 2-3 years or so. And a merchants tent, perhaps being setup
> far more often and for longer ... may lose it after only a year.
> 
> Therefore requiring constant repurchasing of tents :(
> 
> Most people's tents, even if bought as flame retardant, aren't anymore,
> since most canvas tents will last for decades.
> 
> Ever since this information came out, I've known many people who just
> haven't bothered as much with the flame retardant treatment, knowing it
> wears off anyway, if given the option, and save weight and cost.
> 
> Siegfried
> 
> 
> On 11/13/11 3:27 AM, kevin taylor wrote:
> > 
> > pretty much all the merchant opportunities; pennsic, gulf, etc~callidore
> > 
> >> I would be curious to know what sites in Atlantia require a tent to be
> flame retardant? I have not heard of this before. I have heard about it on
> the west coast, but not here.
> >> 
> >> -- Isabelle LaFar
> >>
> >> RE:Tent sale by Midwest tents - word of Caution
> >>
> >> Great prices BUT
> >>
> >> Are not made of Fire-retardant cloth which many events now require (at
> lesat the ones on their site which I checked are not)
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> Do Not include poles, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> If you are doing something like Pennsic you are better off renting from
> Period Pavilions. Or even if you are doing one of the shorter events.
> >>
> >> No, I do NOT work for Period Pavilions. But have used them for years.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Chrestienne Chabrier 
> > 
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