[MR] [Marshalls] Fighters by Kingdom

Mon Jun 27 08:20:10 PDT 2011

Greetings Lord Takeda,

respect seen and accepted.
Alot of what you said has merit and could be disheartening,but sometimes mistakes are made by marshals,sometimes rules change and we dont know it
as word sometimes travels fast,{being a marshal myself}even I make mistakes.
but as a marshal from another area I too saw what needed to be done and had to relearn some things and conform to local policy.
I have been in many kingdoms and have so many rules and things in my brain it gets confusing.but it isnt impossible.
sure you might have to work a bit harder but in the end it is all worth it.
recently I had a situation of I offered help in a area asking for a marshal,and in one of my mistakes I realized that I had to redo all I knew to be warrented in this area.with great haste I did all I could,and had help from many a marshal,
Sir Aradd,Sir Otto Sir Theron, and many more from who I didnt mention,{ you know who you all are thank you once again}.

These good people heard my plea,helped me and told me what I needed to do.I thought first I was not going to make the deadline I had.
but with paitence,compassion and the willingness to help one who wanted to help many many more,saw me through this time and still following
all rules that needed be,helped me complete my quest.

I will be forever greatful for what all of them did.my event i did went great all had fun.all in credit to those who helped me.
yes i have yet another thing under my belt that helps me serve others.

I am NOT saying your words are fruitless and unheard.in fact your words are loud and heard as they should be good sir.
sometimes it may seem hard or impossible to do,or overwhelming to the point of not wanting to go through with it,it isnt.
its not as hard as it looks.sometimes you have to look at it from another angle.

truely in service,
Torgar

Fearlessness is better then a faint heart for any man who puts his nose out of  doors,The length of my life and the day of my death were fated long ago.

Thorwulfgar Uvaerkaller

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From: "sigrune at aol.com" <sigrune at aol.com>
To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MR] [Marshalls] Fighters by Kingdom

Greetings unto all,

I recently moved just outside of Atlantia, and upon reading the rules here, I chose to seek to become a marshal.

I have participated for over 20 years, and I had intended to give back long before this.

While I was in Atlantia, I chose not to try to become warranted for one reason, the process and expectations of getting and maintaining one's warrant. I have spoken in private about this to some in the past, but will speak publicly now, since a question of numbers has been raised and it seems that there is a disadvantage that needs addressing to the benefit of all. (This applies to more than the marshallate in my opinion, but I will speak of this one only since it is the one raised)

The warranting process in Atlantia has more requirements than I see in other Kingdoms (I have not done a in depth comparison kingdom by kingdom, but only those I have lived in over the years or when a point has been raised in a multi-kingdom discussion). Atlantian policy is more codified and rigid, classes must be undertook, requirements of travel must be met.  It is not enough by the written policy to demonstrate the knowledge of the rules, performance of duty, and competency to several marshals with the power to warrant have seen and tested enough to determine warranting or continued review (or a flat out denial). I myself found it a sufficient detractor for a number of reasons, most notably the expectation of travel in order to learn to perform a volunteered service on my part.

I am not speaking to judge why this is the policy, there may have been abuses or warranted concern for potential abuse, or other factors I do not see.  I simply am stating the policy to become and maintain a warrant in Atlantia while I lived there was beyond what I was willing to do to volunteer.  Having traveled to numerous kingdoms, seen and talked with their marshals, fought under their watch, gone through their inspections, I have not detected a noticeable increase in the ability of an Atlantian marshal to perform diligently compared to those outside it. I would further state, I have on more occasions had pause listening or witnessing a marshal misread, misquote, or misjudge a rule more often in Atlantia than with marshals of other kingdoms, though this could be accountable at the difference in time I spent in kingdom and outside it.

From my own experience in the matter, I humbly proffer the suggestion the Crown and Officers of Atlantia look at their policy as written, and consider the benefits it offers now as well as its potential detriments to a greater level of participation in the warranted volunteer positions.

Sincerely, and with respect intended,

-Lord Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa.

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From: deallac <deallac at juno.com>
To: marshalls <marshalls at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
Cc: atlantia <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: [MR] [Marshalls] Fighters by Kingdom

Unto my fellow Atlantians, greetings from Kevin of Thornbury.As a member of the Order of the Pelican in Atlantia, I must say that Ido not like these numbers at all. I did a quick analysis of the ratioof armored fighters to marshalls and our beloved kindgom is rankedsolidly at the bottom of the list where it comes to this service.In Atlantia, for every 10 armored fighters there is one person whoserves to marshal them. Across the SCA, there is a marshal for anaverage of only three (or so) armored fighters.This is not a call for more non-combatants to stand out in a field andwatch the rest of us play. This is a call for more of my brothers andsisters in arms to study and train as a marshal in order to bettershow courtesy and respect for all who work to ensure our safety.My resulting list is shown here for your consideration:Aethelmearc 4.55Ansteorra 1.88An Tir 2.42Artemisia 2.51Atenvelt 5.00Atlantia 10.35Caid 4.35Calontir 3.18Drachenwald 3.85Eldormere
 1.91East 5.07Glenn Abhann 5.84Lochac 1.98Meridies 0.99Middle 6.30Northshield 2.55Outlands 7.00Trimaris 3.09West 2.19SCA-wide 3.26- Kevin of Thornbury, OPOn Mon,
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