[MR] an easier answer - stop wearing coronets

[Gerita della Mara]

Good point, Stefan!

Yes, Ansteorra is full of Peers who only don headgear in Court.  Maybe 
it's because the darn things heat up so much in the sun?  Interesting 
concept.  Having lived in both Kingdoms, I do see coronets a good deal 
more frequently here in Atlantia.  Of course, folks don't get broiled at 
events 10 months of the year, either.  And, this Kingdom is a Childe of 
The East, not of Atenveld's wild west traditions, although how much that 
affects the situation I'm not certain.

Actions always speak louder than words.  The display of peer-like 
behavior should (ugh, that word again) be the goal of us all...as long 
as it's the good side of Peer behavior.

Re sumptuary laws: there is a story on record of a certain Doge of 
Venice who, faced with the arrival of the French Ambassador (or whatever 
they were called then, translations are difficult) ORDERED the women of 
Venice to wear all their illegal finery!  Not that any of those 
law-abiding ladies had any, of course (harrummmph!!).

Gerita



On 6/1/2011 2:36 AM, Stefan li Rous wrote:
> Baroness Rebecca said:
> <<< Maybe we should even test the idea by having coronet-free 
> weekends! And yes I'm extremely serious! >>>
>
> To which Dulcy replied:
> <<< That's a great idea, actually. That would send a clear message, 
> and also keep everyone free of this silly little "mine's bigger" game 
> that is evidently getting played. >>>
>
> But the squabbles over pecking order and who can wear what is a very 
> period concept. See the sumptuary laws and how often disobeying them 
> was flaunted.
>
> Maybe we should do the same. You can wear whatever coronet you wish, 
> if you pay the appropriate 'fines' each year. Doesn't everyone say how 
> much the SCA and the kingdoms, including Atlantia I assume, need money?
>
> Of course, as in period, this wearing of gaudy, ugly coronets can get 
> out of hand. See some of the links in this file to various period 
> coronets. Did I say some of these look rather difficult to wear, 
> overly gaudy and ugly?
> coronets-msg (48K) 4/26/11 Medieval coronets and crowns. Modern sources
> http://www.florilegium.org/files/ACCESS/coronets-msg.html
>
> Is it common in Atlantia for Peers and Nobility to go around wearing 
> their coronets and other insignia throughout an event? Or just in 
> Court?  It seems in Ansteorra that many are stealth Peers and Nobles 
> and you may not see them wearing coronets except in Court. And, at 
> least on the SCA-Cooks maillist, there are many there that are Peers 
> but you wouldn't know it from their signatures except sometimes from 
> some side comments.Or when they display the attributes which probably 
> got them their Peerages in the first place.
>
> Stefan
>
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