[MR] Soundings of the Conch - On Your Feet!

Beverly Robinson-Curry brcurry at bellsouth.net
Tue Feb 1 11:12:05 PST 2011


To be honest, Dame Hrothny, Master Donal was consulting with me for his
article, which I thought was going in the Heralds Point, and I am the one
who told him ladies ought to rise, _if_ they are able (with able being
determined by each individual).  That's what I was taught when I entered the
Society 23 years ago, and it's the tradition I pass on.

So, that fault, if in fact there is fault, is mine.

Rhiannon

Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill
Pearl Herald (Ceremony)
Azure Decrescent Herald (Personal Title)
House Corvus, Barony of Hawkwood, Kingdom of Atlantia

I am the master of my fate.
I am the captain of my soul.
                   -Henley


> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-
> bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Terri Morgan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:35 PM
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] Soundings of the Conch - On Your Feet!
> 
> > Most of us know that it is traditional to have a
> > round of toasts (or to use a more period term,
> > healths) at some time during any feast.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > Most of us also should know that all ought to rise
> > for these healths.  There is a belief in some quarters
> > that ladies need not rise, but in fact they should.
> > Exempting ladies from rising is a modern, probably
> > American, innovation.
> 
> Truly, Master Donal, I would be interested in the basis for your
> statements
> on this.
> 
> I am a lady who does not rise except when making the toast myself.
> Drinking
> the health of one's social betters is a time-honoured tradition, but so
> far
> as I have seen, it is a military one that carried over into the social
> dining room. Ladies did not rise because it would then mean that they
> would
> have to be seated again, wrestling with their gowns, while their dining
> partners were also attempting to do so. To create such havoc at the
> table
> was déclassé.
> 
> Perhaps you could enlighten us on the source of your very expressively
> written views?
> 
> 
> Hrothny
> --
> Dame Hróðný Rognvaldsdóttir, OP, OL
> Great Dark Horde, Barony of Marinus
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