[MR] [Archers] I'd like to point out.....

[loreleielkins at aol.com]

 Oh and yes...seems many of you ARE coming in to the middle of a discussion that started on the Arches list, which seemed to cross over to the Merry Rose. Sorry about that.

Lorelei

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: loreleielkins at aol.com
To: orla at lady.sca.org; Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [MR] [Archers] I'd like to point out.....



 I believe this is a hypothetical scenario.  A "what if".  

For those of us who are always on the range, and tend to show up for events for 
the archery and to visit with our brother and sister archers, only to find the 
range closed would be a great disappointment.  However, this would also be the 
perfect time to broaden your horizons.  The handful of events I've been to where 
I did not shoot archery or run archery (hurt my back once), I found some very 
interesting things going on.  (Its what got me into cordial making.) 

I agree with all of you that the autocrat does need to be aware of the archery 
range needs, but again, I say that it is up to each of you who are MiC for 
archery at an event to make sure it happens well ahead of time.  Talk to the 
autocrat and communicate well in advance of the event.  Make them understand 
what your needs are and if those needs can't be met then archery won't happen.  
There is no need to be adversarial in this undertaking, or in any way draconian.  
Just good old fashion communication will do.

Lorelei

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Orla Carey <orla at lady.sca.org>
To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 10:47 am
Subject: Re: [MR] [Archers] I'd like to point out.....


Am I the only one who feels like they walked into a conversation
halfway?  What is this about?  What event?

Confused,

Orla

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Garth G. Groff <ggg9y at virginia.edu> wrote:
>  My Lord Siegfried,
>
> Ah, you see the glass half-full. I see it as half-empty. I hope you are
> right if this ever comes to pass, but I expect it would end otherwise. If it
> did, I think we should make a lot of noise and demand refunds, but the
> Powers That Be (PTB) are very likely to say, "Too bad, but it was their
> choice, and there's nothing we can do about it now", perhaps sending a mild
> "tsk, tsk" to the autocrat. Remember, "It's all about the fighting."
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Lord Mungo Napier, Who Has Spent Too Many Years Working for UVA
>
> On 9/16/2010 9:53 AM, Siegfried wrote:
>>>
>>> Closing the range would undoubtedly cause a lot of hard feelings, a
>>> blizzard of emails, probably not be taken seriously by the powers that
>>> be (outside of the archery community), and possibly cause archery to be
>>> excluded at that event in the future, but it is the only possible course
>>> of action.
>>
>> Lord Mungo, I disagree.   I feel that if/when a range needs closed by
>> the MiC-Archery, because the autocrat/event-staff/MiC-Event/etc were
>> unable to provide suitable space...
>>
>> Would actually send a strong message to the 'powers that be'.  For in
>> doing said closing, the reason for it should be well shared with all the
>> dissapointed archers.  And we archers are not known for 'keeping our
>> tongue' well.
>>
>> Therefore, numerous complaints would most likely be filed, to autocrat,
>> to seneschal, to MiC, and perhaps higher as they'd have to be included
>> in the MiC-Event's report, etc.
>>
>> Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if some attendees might not even ask for
>> event refunds.  If the sole reason they drove 4 hours was to do archery,
>> to be told the range had to be closed because the autocrat didn't allow
>> enough room to do it safely.
>>
>> So, while I hope that this situation never comes to pass.  I think if it
>> does, the message will be quickly driven home.
>>
>> In Service,
>> Siegfried
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