[MR] Promissories

logan logan at ebonwoulfe.com
Wed Oct 20 09:01:39 PDT 2010 

hi, my name is logan and i used to be an abuser of combat mushroom scribes.
;^)

to back up what the rhi has said, locking away scribes all day (usually away
from friends, activities, other "distractions") was the way things were done
and it was pretty unfair.  it flew under most of our radar because, well,
thats what "they" do.  "they" make scrolls.  so i think little thought went
into how much sacrifice that really was.  no wonder it was hard to find
folks willing to do the job, yucky.  we always did though, and never with a
complaint.  i am a big fan of having a completed scroll ready to hand to
some deserving individual.  so much so that my last couple of reigns we
really tried to stick with scrolls that were in hand as much as possible.
however last minute awards and, as was mentioned earlier, things like
pennsic where the recipient isnt prepared to protect and transport a
beautiful large piece do make the use of promissory much more appealing and
manageable.  i would rather see completed scrolls but promissory scrolls are
a valuable option indeed.

regards
logan

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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Beverly
Robinson-Curry
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:43 AM
To: 'Merry Rose'
Subject: Re: [MR] Promissories

One reason we may not use more scroll blanks for last minute awards is that
if the blank is simply illumination, then some scribe has to spend X number
of hours, perhaps the entire event, callig'ing in the words.  

For a period of time, we were treating our scribes like mushrooms, locking
them away in rooms for the whole day, producing scrolls on the fly.  Scribes
are volunteers, who provide their considerable labor and materials for free,
and 'combat scribing' (which is what that was called) is unfair to them.
They pay to come to the event and then, get to experience none of it prior
to court.

You can make the same argument for cooks, but the difference is, that most
cooks only plan to sacrifice their event once in a while, whereas scribes,
being a limited set of skilled individuals, are often pressed into service
event after event after event.

There is also the reason that if it is an "official" scroll, one that is
armigerous, if the person doesn't have a registered name or device, it's (1)
going to have a big, blank spot left for the blazon, and (2) cannot be
verified by Triton.  So, it would be incomplete and a promissory is a better
choice.


Rhiannon

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House Corvus, Barony of Hawkwood, Kingdom of Atlantia

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-
> bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Rangel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:27 AM
> To: Merry Rose
> Subject: Re: [MR] Promissories
> 
> Forgive me if I sound a little controversial in asking...but what is
> the point in contributing a significant amount of painting work &
> materials into a promissory? Yes the recipient might appreaciate it
> but I think the effort would be more appreciated in a OOAK award
> scroll instead and then there is no backlogging. There maybe was a
> time when promissories were normal but why can't we progessively move
> towards using only scroll blanks (which are OOAK)? I don't know how
> many scroll blanks are being produced for Kingdom level and I sure
> whould love to help the efforts; I have ideas but don't want to step
> on toes or reinvent the wheel. Let me know how I can help and I would
> love to hear more discussion on this topic.
> 
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> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Becky McEllistrem <bmcellis at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I actually use a nice card stock.   Promissories don't need to be
> painted but it's nice to have them done that way.
> >
> > Rebecca
> >
> > --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Tracie Brown <strongerthantea at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Tracie Brown <strongerthantea at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [MR] Promissories
> >> To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> >> Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 5:49 PM
> >> If you decide to do pre-printed,
> >> color-in the artwork promissories, please
> >> have them printed or photocopied on something other than
> >> the parchmenty
> >> bond paper at the printer/copy shop.  Consider Bristol
> >> paper (not Bristol
> >> board) or some other paper that more readily accepts paint.
> >> (Artists, please
> >> weigh in here with more informed suggestions than I can
> >> make.). Also, make
> >> the promissories in a size that can be framed in a
> >> standard* frame* or mat
> >> size size (8X10, for instance), not a standard *paper* size
> >> (8.5X11). Yes,
> >> you'll have to do some trimming, but the scroll recipient
> >> will appreciate
> >> it. People do frame nice-looking promissories and put them
> >> on the
> >> wall. Reserve the "custom" sizes requiring custom framing
> >> for original
> >> scrolls.
> >>
> >> -- Signy (who still doesn't have a Laurel scroll
> >> <sniff>)
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